Yachts in Gibraltar

Innomare · Feb 6, 2013

You're both right, I didn't look properly...

Old Phart · Feb 6, 2013

Innomare said: ↑

I think that the soot you're seeing on Garcon's topsides is from her main engine exhausts. I suppose they utilised the same exhaust system as on their offshore vessels, which means the exhaust doesn't go underwater at speed, as is common on most yachts, but directly overboard.

Allthough there are soot filters available such as the Nauticlean from Hug or the Puregen from Halyard, realistically they are only ever used on the generator exhausts in yachts. For high-HP main engines (as used on yachts like these), their size is usually prohibitive.

That said, the technology is being used more and more on inland-waterway vessels here in Holland, but there, the available space in relation to horsepower is usually more.
For a displacement yacht, it could be considered. For a faster vessel - such as Garcon - I don't think it's a realistic option, unless you take the size requirements into account from the very beginning.

What's puzzling to me, is that the soot is only on the starboard side and there is none on the portside, even though there is cooling water coming out.
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Perhaps a re-read of the link in the Soot Thread and a Google for Garcon for Ace will alter your opinion.

Hug Filtersystems AG - nauticlean FOR SHIPS

As per the link said:

All nauticlean systems are suitable for engines and generators of 200-5000 kW
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Google for Garcon for Ace said:

Engine Manufacturer: Caterpillar Inc Model: 3512C
Number of Engines: 4
Type: Diesel
HP: 1,911 KW: 1,425
Total HP: 7,644 Total KW: 5,700
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Innomare · Feb 7, 2013

Old Phart,

I am not saying it's impossible. If you take their space into account from the beginning, it is very well possible (a retrofit may be more complicated, unless you can replace the dry dampers with soot filters). If you know of a (fast) yacht which has them actually installed on their main engines, I'd be interested to hear. The thread you point to only discusses generator exhausts (usually up to 250 kW on yachts).
The nearest vessel to a yacht I know of which has it on their main engine exhausts (2 x 900 kW) is Nieuwe Maze from the Port of Rotterdam. They actually had them installed at a refit a couple of years ago.

What I am saying is that I haven't yet seen any applied to the main engine exhausts on any fast yacht. But still the amount of soot on Garcon's topsides is rarely seen. So I am just pointing out that a soot filter isn't the only answer to the problem. Most yachts deal with it by sending the soot underwater, which in spite of better looks, is not better for the environment.

I haven't seen anything on Ace's exhaust system, so it's all speculation on my part, but the big holes in the topsides (where there usually would only be a smaller bypass) seem to be the main exhaust outlets to me (which I know for a fact is the case on the commercial Axe bow vessels).

K1W1 · Feb 7, 2013

Hi,

From info I have Lurssen use the Hugg system on gensets and to a certain power setting on mains approx 30% from memory.

The soot on Garçon could well be overloaded engines or a few goossed injectors, as it appears on both sides maybe more than a few.

3512C in that power configuration is normally a very clean burner

Gibdan · Feb 7, 2013

LADY CHRISTINE in Gibraltar on the 14th November 2012.

LADY HAYA in Gibraltar on the 28th December 2012.

LAMU in Gibraltar on the 24th October 2012.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 7, 2013

LADY M II in Gibraltar on the 10th October 2012.

LADY S in Gibraltar on the 7th November 2012.

LAUREL in Gibraltar on the 10th October 2012.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 7, 2013

Yacht News said: ↑

It's both sides...I believe Daniel had two sets of photos from different days or something. So she was dirty while arriving in Gib, and when she fuel they cleaned off the soot, so Daniel or his Dad...got the shots of her leaving too. So I think it is just the sequence in which he uploaded the photos.
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The photos were taken the same day but like you said, they must have cleaned the soot off whilst she was fuelling alongside....the last three photos of the set are of when she was leaving and the clean hull around the exhausts can be clearly seen.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 8, 2013

LAZY Z in Gibraltar on the 4th October 2012.

LEANDER G in Gibraltar on the 6th December 2012.

LIMELIGHT in Gibraltar on the 8th October 2012.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 8, 2013

MAIDELLE in Gibraltar on the 6th January 2013.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 10, 2013

BATON ROUGE in Gibraltar on the 30th September 2012.

CANELI in Gibraltar on the 20th October 2012.

ECLIPSE in Gibraltar on the 12th August 2012.

MARTHA ANN in Gibraltar on the 30th November 2012.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 10, 2013

MARJORIE MORNINGSTAR in Gibraltar on the 25th October 2012.

MARY JEAN in Gibraltar on the 10th November 2012.

NAHLIN in Gibraltar on the 14th December 2012.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 10, 2013

NATITA in Gibraltar on the 5th October 2012.

NO COMMENT in Gibraltar on the 16th October 2012.

ONE MORE TOY in Gibraltar on the 13th November 2012.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 10, 2013

PERCHERON in Gibraltar on the 3rd October 2012.

POLAR STAR in Gibraltar on the 10th October 2012.

QATAR 2 in Gibraltar on the 11th October 2012.

RADIANT in Gibraltar on the 20th September 2012.

SEA PEARL in Gibraltar on the 7th October 2012.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 14, 2013

SEANNA in Gibraltar on the 12th November 2012.

SECRET LOVE in Gibraltar on the 16th November 2012.

SERENITY in Gibraltar on the 27th October 2012.

SEVEN SINS in Gibraltar on the 22nd November 2012.

SILVER SHALIS in Gibraltar on the 24th October 2012.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 14, 2013

SHERGAR in Gibraltar on the 14th October 2012.

SLIPSTREAM in Gibraltar on the 17th November 2012.

SYCARA V in Gibraltar on the 10th November 2012.

Daniel

Yacht News · Feb 14, 2013

There is something about "Shergar" she shouldn't look good but she does, well to me anyway.

Fishtigua · Feb 14, 2013

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There is something about "Shergar" she shouldn't look good but she does, well to me anyway.
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And think how old she is, she's not dated at all. (1983)

Yacht News · Feb 14, 2013

Yeah I know she is old but the design doesn't look like an 80's design.

Gibdan · Feb 19, 2013

TALISMAN C in Gibraltar on the 20th May 2012.

TALITHA in Gibraltar on the 3rd December 2012.

TELEOST in Gibraltar on the 4th October 2012.

TITAN in Gibraltar on the 21st December 2012.

TUEQ in Gibraltar on the 28th May 2012.

Daniel

Gibdan · Feb 19, 2013

TOPAZ in Gibraltar on the 31st October 2012.

Daniel

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