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Will rising fuel prices jump start the Yacht industry?

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Pelagic Dreams, Feb 3, 2012.

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  1. travler

    travler Senior Member

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    i don't think sport fishing is even close to comercial fishing and the boats are way diffrent and the modern catcher prosseser is quite a pice of work some of the better boats are better than peoples houses

    just some thoughts

    also there are problems with farm ocean fish that i can't get into here
  2. Capt J

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    I worked on a steel 30M motoryacht that was similar to the old Benetti's, drew 8.5' of draft, canoe stern, and single rudder. She had Gardener 250hp diesels.....We would burn 15GPH total on both engines to do her 10 knot cruise........ I don't think you're figures are accurate as there is no way 425hp cats can burn 80gph........
  3. travler

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    capt j

    ithink you are right the 3516 we run burns about 35 gal at cruise we draw 16 ft heavy and have a 38 ft beam i think those 425 are probaly 343's wich would be about 15 gal a side at most
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    Hi,

    What sort of power are you developing and what is the cruise speed with a 3516 with that fuel consumption?

    The D 343 didn't do much more than 400 HP, Its larger cousin the D 353 which was very popular with the Italians in the early 80's has one right at 425 HP. The fuel consumption given at that rating is 22.8 US Gal/hr (86.4 lt/hr).

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  5. brian eiland

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    Yeah I knew that...just thought I would play with you guys a little :D

    I think this is more likely.
  6. airship

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    Dear K1W1, many thanks for your contributions: [​IMG]

    Partly in response to my previous post when I wrote:
    It appears to me that my memories continue to serve me well (and I'm not yet greatly affected by Alzheimer's)... :)

    On the subject of comparisons between "industrial fishing" and "sport-fishing" or just those of us who've had the opportunity to fish from the deck of a 55m motor-yacht in the Caribbean and French Polynesia whilst combatting "boredom" on many occasions: Almost all the 11 member crew aboard did some fishing. Our walk-in deep freezer aboard was rapidly stuffed with fish that we could never ever hope to be consumed by owner and guests / or crew. I never personally caught any mahimahi, though have eaten these very tasty fish in restaurants on occasion. And it's not because they're also known as "dolphin-fish" incorrectly (or price) that I no longer consume these fish here. Many years ago, I was informed (or given to understand) that the mahimahi fish somehow develop "life-long" couples...?! So when you catch 1 half of the pair without the other, the remaining half apparently somehow "despairs" similarly to human-beings at the loss of their "life-long" partners.

    Pretty soon (and perhaps like Mark Kuckerberg of Facebook fame and soon to be multi-billionaire if the IPO is successful), I too will decide not to consume certain foods, including fish, other sea-foods, beef, poultry, tomatoes, potatoes and cucumbers, "unless I myself killed it first..."). I can almost imagine Mark Kuckerberg's future 100m+ megayacht where a whole lower-deck is consecrated to the stockage of live animals and vegetables and the chef simply awaits Mark's "intervention" so as to feed the owner and guests / crew that evening... :D
  7. K1W1

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    Hi,

    I believe that is correct and if you keep your eyes open whilst hauling one in you will often see another following it up, this can make for wonderful sport with light spinning gear or sometimes a speargun can be used from the swim platform to ensure that these fish are only separated by ending up on more than one plate in the mess.
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    Generally an entire school comes up with the fish on your line, not just one. As Dolphin are a schooling fish, unfortunately their sheer numbers and size of the school have dwindled dramatically as they're on every menu from here to China now........
  9. airship

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    Hahahaaaaa, if only.

    PETA have apparently launched a court case in the USA involving orcas as the plaintiffs...?!

    I myself would be generally supportive of bestowing certain "entitlements and recognitions" to mammals, fish or other creatures clearly, in contrast to the mostly obscure and opaque regulations that govern today.

    What everyone should bear in mind is that not all of today's superyacht-owners are Russians or of eastern European origin, corrupt African dictators or whatever...?! Some of them may actively support initiatives involving the preservation of endangered species (whilst still equipping their yachts with jet turbines - more often seen on aircraft)...?!

    Rising fuel prices for yachts = viagra equivalent supplement to many superyacht-owners today. :rolleyes:
  10. 84far

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    Thought I might get the thread back on the rails :rolleyes:

    I've notice the designs of yachts are changing to decrease the blow of the fuel bill. The superyacht field seem to be sporting skinner waterlines (decrease in beem), and plummer/straighter stems (bows) to increase the waterling length, in a bigger effort to increase the efficiency of vessels.

    I think will also start seeing boats like Pershing, Sunseeker, and the alike to start redesigning there hull. Multi hulls are also starting to get a lot more cred for there efficiency. So, I guess I wouldn't say the boating industry is going to get a jump start, just taking a different direction, and a change in it's physical apparance.

    Plus, I can't wait until we start seeing a change in power source.

    Far