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Discussion in 'Tenders & Dinghies' started by theyachtman, Apr 8, 2007.

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  1. Ben

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    if you drop at 150mph, first every limb will be severed most likely almost instantly, and when your pilot comes back to pick you up (whatever he can find back all over the place), any small oversight will be in the meat-grinder.

    Maybe turbine & jets would be better if you really want to ski / wakeboard behind it. Though, you might need a 300ft rope and waterproof goggles for the spray... :D This might be like launching a new trend... SCUBA water-skiing...
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    Guys thanks for all your replies

    But i don't want to water ski or wake board from one of these boats when going at 150 mph, i would be using the top speed or cruising speed for getting from A - B in a short time. I would keep it at about 25 - 40 MPH when water skiing and wake boarding.

    Anyway i think i will probably not bother with one of these power boats, they seem very dangerous.

    I would like to just get a speed boat, I am living in Spain, so if any of you know good Spanish speed boat builders then i would love to know of some companies that sell them under say 32,000 Euros. Also i posted some descriptions of what i am after a few posts above i hope someone can answer my questions.

    Much appreciated

    TIA
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    150mph on the water is very dangerous, even for seasoned race drivers. The question is how rough are the waters you'll be running in? The Fountain 48EC will run 40-50mph in almost any seas less than 8'. And with triple Yanmar 485s and Arneson drives the powertrain will be almost bulletproof. Shipping charges will be minimal with your $1.5M budget.

    You might also look at Magnum Yachts. Magnums are used throughout the Med for yacht tenders and are built to take heavy seas at 50-70mph.

    http://www.magnummarine.com/products/80/80_fr.html This one will cost a bit more than $1.5M :D

    Sorry, I don't know of any Spanish high performance boats.
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    Contact : www.marinamarbella.com .Im sure they have the right boat for you.
    New or pre-owned.
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    Hi,

    Excuse my ignorance but where are you planning on traveling between at warp speed for 500 miles in a straight line in the Med or are you on the Atlantic Coast of Spain?
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    Which also brings up the thought, would you want to go 500 miles for a swim?
    Even at 50mph that'll be over 10 hours.:eek:
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    Guys

    I made another thread because i am also looking for another boat, I would like to purchase an express cruiser with a 500 mile range traveling at high speeds for a budget of under $1.5 million brand new, either build my own or buy something already out there. I will be using this to make a trip from Calpe to Tarifa, i don't know how to work out the actual distance by boat, i know that if was to stay within the legal speed limit by car it will take me 6.2 hours to drive there, for a car journey it says its 435 miles away. But by boat i am not sure, i see on maps that the route bends around the coastline a little bit. What i would like to do is drive the boat out a bit from the coast line and then get a complete straight and switch the engines on at say 150 mph.

    Then i am also looking for a small water skiing boat for under 32,000 euros, that will be used for skiing and wake boarding, i will also like to ride it out to corals for scuba dives. So if anyone know of any retailers in spain for ski speed boats, or even any Spanish builders, then please share.

    much appreciated


    Many thanks
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    I don't know how often you would like to make this trip, but given the distance and speed you specify, you will need a **** good boat. Speeds like that demand a lot from a boat. Not only the structure but also the rest of the technical components. I only hope you know what the physical demand is on your own body when you're out at sea at those speeds. The area you specified can also be very crowded, so I'm not sure you'll always reach the speeds you want. For your personal safety. I would recommend a fast car and save the money you don't spend on this particular yacht for speeding tickets.:D
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    TheYachtman,

    I have been involved with and raced offshore powerboats for many years. You are asking for a lot but it is very possible. A custom build is what you need & you need to speak to Mike Fiore at Outerlimits Powerboats. I raced an Outerlimits in Superboat International and APBA & I can tell you from experience that they are simply the best performance hull out there. They have several V hull designs in the 40-51' range & they just came out with a 50' cat which blew people away at the Miami Boat Show. Their detail is second to none. They are pricey though. I heard the second cat is being finished & that it was over 1 million (but still in your budget). Mike would learn exactly what you need in a boat & design one while keeping in mind average sea conditions where you plan on boating. It would hands down be the best boat for what you want.

    Check out http://www.outerlimitspowerboats.com

    I'll attach a couple of the new cat pictures & one of triple X but you will see everything on their web site. Let me know if I can help.

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    Am I the only one or is anyone else thinking in the direction of the "Multiple outboard" thread we had a few weeks ago?

    I like Tarifa a lot, been there a few times. On a clear day you have a good view of the Moroccon coastline.

    As Mov-it said, there is a lot of traffic in that area, so be careful, Yachtman.

    My guess is that this thread is a troll...

    Bruno
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    I would firstly consider looking at a 45' Nortech with Triple Diesel config.
    You would get consistant speeds above 70mph along with a cruise range of over 450 miles.

    Second choice would be to look at Fountain with a double or triple setup, again good speed and endurance pack.

    Don't know if anyone has mentioned Pier57 boats, http://www.pier57.com.

    They have a vast range and sure that Mat Smith would help you find the right adrenalin machine.

    They ship worldwide, so to Spain not a problem.
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    Ok Bruno- I'm With You

    Alright yachtman, I am glad you clarifed you are looking for two entirely seperate boats-- otherwise I was seriously questioning the whole 1.5M down to 32000 Euros move.

    Anyways, I have to agree with Bruno when he suggested this might be a troll thread. Sorry man, it just seems so far fetched. Wanting to go 150mph for 500 miles? What on earth for? There's only a few answers, and one of the first ones that comes to mind, as far as I know, isn't legal ANYWHERE.

    But, lets say for the sake of good dialog, that your intentions are purely wholesome. I will agree 100% with Dave and go back to my original post on this thread and direct you to Outer Limits, They are just, hand downs, the word in super high performance offshore power boats. If getting them with sterling race engines isn;t good enough for you, then throw a couple 1800HP turbine marine engines in their. That will definitely get you the speed you are looking for.

    Oh, and one other minor detail...

    Unless you plan on making your first trip on absolute sheet glass water, you might want to take boating/offshore racing classes for, like, several years. 150 mph on the water is much more similar to 250 on land, and you're talking about a machine that weighs probably no less that 20 times more than anything that can go that fast on land, with no breaks. If you got a boat up to that speed without major amounts of experience (a miraculous accomlishment IMHO), then hit say 2-3 ft seas, it would take an act of God to keep you from wrecking your boat. The fastest I have ever been in a boat was about 75mph, and that was ****ed fast-- much scarier than the 73 I have done on a pwc.

    Oh, and if your taking family and other loved ones, their probably not going to want to go that fast anyway. I say you look for something similar to what another user on the forum is awaiting delivery on. I believe this is more realistic all the way around...

    http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/fairline-yacht/6428-pictures-my-fairline-phantom-48-a.html

    I am not sure what TK-430 paid, but she's a real beauty, and would get eight or more folks to your destination in comfort and style-- and that's what crusing really is all about for 99% of the "cruisers" out there.
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    150 mph on the water for any length of time will beat you and your passengers to death, unless the water is complete glass. If you're really interested in pursuing this, go to one of the offshore performance dealers in Florida and have them take you for a ride at 100 mph on the outside (open ocean).
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    Extracted fro one of Theyachtman's posts:

    "What i would like to do is drive the boat out a bit from the coast line and then get a complete straight and switch the engines on at say 150 mph."

    How are you planing on "driving" off the coast to a complete straight before switching the engines on?

    I don't know if this guy is a troll or has just watched too many episodes of Miami Vice!
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    Ok guys look i am not a troll, i know what it looks like, someone going online to a boat forum and asking a lot of something. But i truly do want to go fast, Now from all the replies i have received on this thread i see that my original idea for a speed boat isn't practical, logical or even realistic as it is far too dangerous and safety is my number 1 aspect for myself and my passengers.

    K1W1 What i meant from a previous post is that i want to drive out some where from the coastline and then switch the engines on full power or near full power to hit 150 mph. But now i see from posts this would not be possible and possibly illegal. Which comes to my next question, what is the legal speed limit for speed boats in the Med?

    TIA
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    I have NEVER heard of a speed limit on any open ocean.
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    Hi Yachtman,

    I hope you're not offended with me playing Sherlock ;)

    Speed comes at a cost, especially speeds over 50 knots. It takes a lot of money, it takes a lot of space, it's noisy and smelly. The ride is uncomfortable and the boats have a stiff roll. The interior has to be lightweight and minimalistic.
    In my opinion, boating should never be about going from A to B in the shortest time, except in some very specific cases (a commuter that can shortcut a daily 2 hour traffic jam for example).

    I'd strongly recommend you charter a couple of boats before making a purchase you might regret later on. If the price is a turn-off to you, figure that chartering will almost always be cheaper than owning a boat, unless you have lots of time to spend on your boat.

    PS. Even in the mega-yacht world, it's not uncommon for owners to replace their gas turbines with a more conventional (read slower) propulsion.
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    Hi,

    Close inshore and in restricted waters there are various limits on speed wake etc that vary throughout the Med and any costal regions in the world.

    Safe speed just as that which is given as the answer in many automobile licence questions should always be considered.

    The real answer to the maximum speed must be left to mother nature. Sir Donald Campbell was killed in a World Water Speed Record attempt by a ripple on the surface of a lake. ( Coniston Water in the UK) It is very unlikely you will encounter the same smooth lake like conditions anytime in the Med owing to natural ground swell, currents especially closer to Gib, passing vessel wakes, wind driven surface deflections etc and the list goes on.

    If you and your passengers are suited, booted and strapped into place then you can open it up wide and go for the top speed of the boat you purchase if you truely seek 150 to 200 mph on the water. A simple wave could upset you plans the boat could become airborne and overturn mid air killing you and your passengers instantly.

    I used to work for the late Mr Bernie Little the Owner of the Miss Budweiser Racing Team that campaigned in the later years in Un Limited Hydroplane boats. These were absolute thoroughbreds with everything set to run at full speed in absolute pristine condiions and yet these still crashed and killed the drivers with alarming regularity.

    Bear this in mind when making your decision
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