Need help with a rogue 108' Sunseeker

Hi,

I would say none.

I would also say that if you boarded and forcibly detained a foreign flag vessel and it's occupants who are legally in the US you would be guilty of Piracy plus a few other things the State Attorney could dredge up. This may also apply to US Flag vessels.

What is the law where you are if someone committing a felony comes at you and you fear for your life?

It could be an interesting shootout from plastic boats.

Yes, too risky, better use torpedos...

Really, captain? Where did you find that in the US Code?

You can shoot off white flares all day long if you want as long as you don't endanger someone. White flares are "practice" flares and can legitimately be used as an anti-collision signal.

How the folks in other boats nearby interpret the use of one if you don't announce it beforehand might be problematic but it is hardly a federal offence. Surplus military flares are available from many sources in several colors. I would think the local fireworks laws would govern their use.

Depends on what "them" is ... do you mean red flares? They are an emergency signal. Is your situation an emergency?

If you consider your situation to be an emergency you can do anything you want with any resource available. Just like any action taken in "self defence" you had better be ready to defend your actions and those actions had better be seen by authorities as reasonable.

We are moving into an area where this thread can go wildly off track. You can be in an emergency situation and not be aware of it, a professional can and might declare an emergency on your behalf. You might also panic and think you are in an emergency when you are perfectly safe. The art lies in knowing the difference.

For the record, Bombardier Inc. is a giant multinational making regional jet aircraft and is I believe, the largest manufacturer of high speed passenger rail cars and locomotives in the world. It operates in 60 countries and last year had sales of about 20 billion US dollars. It is publicly traded - I own shares - but does not have an "owner" I think the biggest positions are held by pension funds and mutual funds. It does not make Skidoos.

BRP Recreational Products on the other hand is a privately held company with an owner or owners some of which are said to be descended from A. Bombardier who invented the Skidoo. They also make Seadoo, Evinrude and other well known products. While large it is nowhere as big as Bombardier Inc. and is a separate entity entirely.

I doubt that the "owner" of Bombardier - since there isn't one - was involvoved in the incident. BRP is another matter but I simply do not know.

I should add that a quick glance at my last Annual Report reveals that there are two Bombardiers still on the 11 member board of Bombardier Inc. one in his own right and one representing the family foundation. BRP as far as I know is nothing but Bombardiers.

It is never legal to use deadly for to stop a fleeing suspect. There are of course other ways (most of which will put you on the wrong side of a lawsuit). That said arrogant SOB's should understand that there are those who just don't care.

That post would sound so good read aloud at a meeting of their shareholders or posted outside the corporate offices for their employees to read.

I just saw them out here in Nantucket, and sorry to say they seemed to be enjoying themselves.
Perhaps they will be heading back your way and you can catch up with them. In today's legal world what you are hoping for will never happen, no matter how much of a "stand up guy" the owner is. The minute he accepts responsability or acknowledges what has happened, he is wide open to being sued.
Best of luck

A little something

I've been watching this thread develop since day 1. I even followed it to another forum and watched it there for awhile too.
I'll even say that the first day of the thread, I made a point of making some calls to find out where the boat was sitting.
I then ran into them in Nantucket in early July and introduced myself to the captain. It may ease your pain a little to know that when I met him he was the NEW captain of the vessel.
Perhaps those few ounces will go toward the pound of flesh you are Seeking (Pun intended)

Even a new Captain should have known better than to do what he did. The worst of it now is that law enforcement has given up. No one, not even the errant Captain, will be held accountable.

Cat,

The way I read Ken's post is, the NEW as in replacement Captain. Perhaps speed racer is walking the docks?

Steve

ding, ding, ding. Give the man a cigar.
That's exactly what I meant.

The captain should be enjoined with the owner in any civil action. His name should also be publicized so others know not to hire him. This is or should be a career ender.