Miami 4th of July Fatal Boating Accident

I tried to ignore your posts but after the second cannot do so.

Between your first post of natural selection and God's will and this post, I find them both to be terribly offensive. First, I don't know why you feel the need to express such a hate filled diatribe into a thread about a tragic accident. But then the thought of wanting to just let people get killed until they are weeded out. No thought of the victims apparently. Then as if that wasn't bad enough you start on protecting yourself? So what are you going to do, shoot a jet skier? Look for boats with no lights and take them out? Yes, you will and should be punished. If the plan was for people to handle the idiots themselves, I know exactly where I'd start.

Other people chose to suggest some ways to address the problem. Some expressed sadness over the event. But you want the idiots to die and the right to take force against anyone you deem to be one.

This sure doesn't belong on a yacht forum. Frankly, I don't want to hear it anywhere. Yes, guess you'll label me a bleeding heart liberal. Well, if caring about my fellow human beings makes me so, then so be it. But I sure don't want to see those like you run vigilante.

I apologize to the forum for an off topic response but I cannot sit back and ignore such posts as the two above.

Not exactly. Just don't punish the guy who beats the crap out of the idiot who ran full sail into a group of moored boats. Give the guy a key to the city, put it all over the news and you will hear heads getting wrenched out of anus's all over the country. People don't fear fines and arrest like they fear an old school whoopin'. Then tell them they can't sue someone if their stupidity started the situation and you will have a lot of ignorant people surfing the web trying to save their butts.

Have you driven on i95 lately? How are these drivers licenses working out to curb stupidity?

Except that these idiots end up killing or hurting others. In this case, the jerk driving the 32 contender managed to hit not one but TWO boats full of innocent people. He also killed 2 of his own passengers.

Just to add one thing. Even the "idiots" have families. Sometimes we protect people from themselves. People lost family members. Even if someone loses their life as a result of their own disregard for rules or laws, they are still a loss to those who love them. Their spouses, their parents, their kids. Oh, and it's called human compassion.

Unfortunately "god saves fools and drunks". It's those innocents around them that generally pay the price (as the last part of your post illustrates. PLEASE let the victims lawyer take their last dime. People like that don't do well poor.

The victims I have nothing but sympathy for. But the people who care so little about the lives of others that they won't even learn the rules of a hobby they wish to partake in, and by doing so risk the lives of others, no, I don't have one iota of respect for them. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, they don't care about the lives of others, why should they be given more respect than they give? That nanny state mentality is why we have this problem.

Wow!

You just described someone who received the Noble Peace Prize.

Okay, are you proposing that we be allowed to unleash the mob (rioters rather than organized crime) on people? You do that and you've got tons of truly innocent people being flayed alive, and guilty ones going free. On top of that, you've just increased the penalty for something people don't believe will happen happening. Small consistent penalties change behavior. Large abstract ones do not. You're just doubling down on the same strategy that always fails. Our society pays so much because no politician wants to appear soft on crime, so they ratchet the penalties up and up and up, instead of thinking, and listening to the research, and doing the effective thing.

In the case of drunks, booze saves them. In an accident, people who are relaxed get injured less than someone who is tensed up. So the passed out drunk survives when the alert driver who tensed up when they saw headlights in their lane does not.

Not unleash a mob. Just don't punish someone who after witnessing a horrid situation like this, gives in to human emotion and takes it into their own hands to punish the person who caused the problem. I'm not even saying to kill them, but to make them feel real pain for what they have done, not just take some of their money or some of their time. If they just get fined, they don't understand what they have done, and the lesson won't sink in. If they think about it every morning when they put their dentures in, they will remember.