Lars Modin Design IV

Lars,

just out of interest, what deadrise are you running at the transom on the 54'? cheers

far

Lars,

what about in front of the drive units? or my questions cant be answered at this point cause u dont want to give away secrets .

can i ask about why u chose IPS over Zeus? im just seeing different opinions. cheers

far

Lars,

IPS - i was expecting something a little more technical, but ill pay that.

deadrise - i was just having a look at your D29 and it looks like it's running around 20-25degs...? and was interested in the larger boat (54) if u have gone with less or the same angle. they are both sitting very nicely when running.... Very Nicely!

hope the boats going well, cheers

far

Conservatism

Having lived and worked in Sweden I know that many Scandinavian boats have forward leaning windows, so its a theme that works there.

In many other parts of the world there are similar 'standard' appearances. In Southern Europe the stiletto-nosed yacht is king, in the US its the sports-fisher or the trawler.

Many boatbuilders address the middle market in their own regions, and very very few buyers are adventurous.

Here in the UK its very difficult to tell which of the builders has produced a motor yacht, they all look similar, and are meant to not frighten the buyers, most of whom are middle-of-the-roaders.

To strike out into a different market takes insight, certainty and huge, huge courage.

If the Wally boats, which terrify many, succeed, they do so by appealing to the minority, perhaps 10%. The style conscious are always a small minority, thats a given. 80% of people are deeply traditional, and the remainder are enthusiast for historic design.

It make good business sense to stick with the middle rump of the market, except that this is where all your competitors have also set up camp. Its possible to make a good living there, but also in more adventurous product development, providing you have the aptitude, enthusiasm and skills to sell against the norm.

I thoroughly admire the way that you have built up your company and fleet. Its very encouraging, and especially when you suggest that serendipity played such a part in the hull form and effectiveness. It should encourage us all to dive in with both feet.

By the way, as an architect, I caution against designing by committee. Its lovely for us to see what you are developing, but bear in mind your customers, not the people who review designs on websites.

The advice you get may come from people who may never buy your boats, but might steer you away from what makes your boats attractive to your buyers.

Taking the Kitchen with You

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Yes, we all expect more 'things' with us. I'm refitting the boat I bought 20 years ago and find myself adding things that weren't available then, but are now seemingly essential, like internet receivers, flat screen TV, and low energy lights. Plus the extra batteries needed.

None of them weigh nothing. So thats why a big boat is now 75 feet not 50, and why my friends in Sweden who told me not to buy anything over 32 feet long because it wasn't 'normal' have bought bigger themselves.

But you have space on the 75, which from the illustration looks practically ready to build. If you can convert to a low speed, low wash hull with these bigger boats you can surely have space for the extras.

I agree entirely with you that doing 30 knots in the narrow channels between the islands around Marstrand in such a boat would be utter madness. So perhaps 10knots is the new sensible speed of boating?

Even Wally is embracing displacement hulls now.

This comparison is interesting. Changing 'only' the bow angle can have great effects, but the impact on real hull in 3D may be difficult to design.... Would you try ?