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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Captain Nemo, Nov 12, 2010.

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  1. Kapn

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    All along the way...

    I've always thought along the same lines that good skill and experience should prevail. However, looking back, I'm sure that the masters of sailing ships thought the new technology of steam ships and coastal aids to navigation such as lighthouses was allowing inexperienced mariners to achieve the same end results as their training. Then the Loran took over for a Sextant and now we trust our navigation to a bunch of satellites in orbit. Fifty years from now there will be a grizzly old guy on the dock talking about how those old computer controlled diesel engines are more reliable than the hyper plasma drives or whatever else has come along.

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  2. AMG

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    You should learn how to run and steer the IPS drives in emergency mode...
  3. NYCAP123

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    I've been running IPS for several years now and have had numerous discussions with our mechanic about this warning (which he believes is a bad sensor, but has to put the VDO on to confirm) and this is the first I've heard of "emergency mode". Educate me PLEASE. Thank you.
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    Sorry, but I wasn´t listening in detail when Volvo Penta was describing it, but there is a procedure to follow. (I am not talking about false alarms, but when something goes down.)
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    Never heard of anyone complaining about the advent of nav aides except for one around Kingston I believe it was (that was built by salvers to draw ships onto the reef), but those steam engines did have a habit of blowing up or burning. Also, in those days people didn't jump from land into the new technology. They added it to their base of knowledge and skill.
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    Sounds like we all have some investigating to do. That's something critical that should be taught during orientation. I didn't even know it existed unless they were just talking about steering with the tabs and gears.
  7. CaptEvan

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    In IPS, if a steering unit fails, you can set the drive straight by hand with a little aluminum wheel and a brake release button included in an emergency kit. Typically, both SUS units (steering) would not fail, but it is possible. In that case, its gears and throttles to get home.

    Ed, the tool you are referring to is a Vodia, more like a hand held computer for reading service codes and programming components.
  8. NYCAP123

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    Yep, that's it. x-thousand $. Never heard of that emergency kit. Was told about the adjustment the position and just told "never touch it. Leave it to the tech" which is of little help . I was left with the impression it was in case a drive gets pushed out of line not if it failed. I'll have to check with my old boss to see if it was included. Thanks for the info.
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    Just got a good response from Fish who's down with the flu. (Let's all wish him well with that). Also from my own tech. Simply put, Emergency mode indicates a problem (13 sensors). Operate normally if it works until you can get with a tech to put the VODIA on it. If it doesn't work go to gears and tabs. If it is locked at angles align as best you can with as Capt.Evan indicated. and go to gears & tabs. (I'm still waiting to hear from the boss if the "little aluminum wheel and a brake release button" were given him). If not it soon will be. Does anyone know if pod angle can be determined from up top or do you need to put someone under to eyeball it?
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    There is a resolver or potentiometer on the SUS (steering) unit that tells the computer where the drive is, and that angle is also available on the display at the helm. If that resolver goes bad, you will get a steering fault code and will not know where the drive is.

    The trick with the little manual wheel is to crank it all the way to one side, then count the number of full turns it takes to get it to its opposite limit, and finally turn it back half of that number and the drive will be facing straight forward. 36 full turns from one limit is what I recall will get the drive centered, but it has been awhile since I had to do it.
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    Just got this from my tech:
    "If you want to manually turn the drive you have to install the tool and turn it to one side. Then turn it back 75 turns and that is about center. The drive will be straight so you can drive like a shaft boat."
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    My recall is that it takes around 70-72 full turns limit to limit. If that could only be the worst thing I've forgotten to date, I'd take it smiling.:D
  13. Tiara

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    I know this is an old thread but I have the "Check Steering Wheel " warning on our 2009 Tiara 3900. You don't happen to know what the repair was for that particular EVC code ? Any help is appreciated .

    Cheers