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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Hiper, Feb 21, 2009.

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  1. T.K.

    T.K. Senior Member

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    Small world indeed Hiper :).

    There could be an extremely good deal on a new Ferretti 881. The ME dealer brought it to Egypt for a very wealthy Kuwaiti gentleman with business in Egypt on the Red Sea. The gentleman did not take the boat and the boat is currently in Hurghada and offered at an extremely competitive price from what I have heard. If you are interested I could obtain some more details and info on the boat.
  2. Hiper

    Hiper New Member

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    Hi Tarek,

    Yes I know about the 881 RPH. The customer actually bought the yacht as a temporary solution while his 112 Next is completed. I know him quite well. But it's quite a jump from the 830 in terms of price with not a huge difference. Sure the raised pilot house offers much more room in terms of the saloon and galley area, but other than that, its pretty much the same. For my use in the Gulf, the 830 is more than enough. Thanks for the tip anyway :)
  3. nilo

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    a different perspective

    Dear Hiper,


    I’ve been following this thread and was somewhat not decided whether to comment, as you seemed quite convinced in your short list. Anyway, especially after Tarik joining in and sharing his own experience, I thought I should not hold back and try to chip in my personal experience, which may add some more perspective to your search, in spite of the fact that you seem to have reached a certain conclusion already.

    After such a long prelude, I want to tell you that I was also a keen fiberglass boat owner. I owned an Azimut and 2 Ferretti boats, but at one stage I have realized that they were not really addressing all my requirements in terms of quality, range, and comfort and retaining their second hand values.

    My search ended up with a Dutch build semi displacement aluminum boat. Of course if you do not need speed, a steel displacement boat may be a good choice as well.

    The main difference between production fiberglass boats and these type of boats; they are better build, they are real sea boats and can cruise in different and more difficult weather conditions, they have longer ranges (my boat has a range of 2800 miles), they are also build like little ships, whereas Azimuts and Ferrettis and the like are more or less build in the same manner as a fast day cruiser (the systems are designed differently).

    If this ever attracts your attention, I would be glad to give you more insight.
  4. jfrank

    jfrank New Member

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    Have you looked at Pacific Mariner 85?
  5. Hiper

    Hiper New Member

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    Hi nilo, I had thought about a semi-displacement in the past, but I actually ruled it out later on for many reasons. 1) boating here consists of short day trips to local islands, so speed is a requirement. 2) diesel here is $0.82/gallon and has been fixed for the last 10 years. Again, range is not an issue, and filling up every couple of trips isn't difficult since the pump is literally 500 feet away from my berth.

    As for displacement yachts being more comfortable boats in difficult weather conditions, I do have to agree with you. However, we rarely have 5+ foot seas here, since the Gulf tends to be very calm waters.

    I looked at Moonen's 84 and Benetti's 85.
  6. Hiper

    Hiper New Member

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    I did, but found it to be too outdated in terms of exterior styling.
  7. Mov-it!

    Mov-it! New Member

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    Thank you Nilo. There's a point not often made.
    There seems to be a general perception that Dutch yachts are slow.
    A quick look at Frank Mulder’s Sossego for example shows that we can combine quality, speed and durability in our little country even on yachts under 100'.
    Question is; Are you up for a custom project or do you want to buy “off the rack”?