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  1. NYCAP123

    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    For very good protection and free dockage in a populated area you could go between LI's forks, straight down the Peconic River to the town dock in Riverhead. It would be a bulkhead docking on the north side of the river just past Atlantis Marine World. Otherwise, you could grab a mooring in the N/E corner of Pt. Jefferson harbor They're only used by dayboaters, mostly on weekends. Big hills on the east side of the harbor.
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    On the weather channel this morning they had a reporter up in Chatham MA. He pointed out that it was rougher today than yesterday. Yesterday was flat calm and today there were 6" swells on whatever body of water he was on. Plus the wind was now 5-6 mph with gusts to 8. So worse than yesterday...

    I'm not making this stuff up. Six INCH swells and gusts to 8 mph. It may be too rough to save your boat already!
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    I'm guessing that either he was on the bay or you meant to say feet. Right now, off Montauk the swell is 3.6' with a 2.0 wind wave (total 5.6'). Winds are sw 230* at 11.7kts. with gusts to 13.6kts.
    Chatham is much further away from any effect though, but it's probably coming. Doubt the NE will really have a good handle on where he's going until it reacts to Hattaras.
    Off Hattaras right now it's swell 9.5' wind wave 5.6, wind 19.4kts. with gusts to 23.3kts.
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  5. Pascal

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    I m in py Judith right now, refuelling, then heading to mystic river marina.

    Should be far enough to get reasonable winds.

    I have the HelmCam up and running at www.sandbarhopper.com

    RI sound was pretty good about 3 footers instead of the 7 footers forecasted. I went they woods hole and into buzzards which was pretty smooth
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    To copy my post from another thread the other day:

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    I think it is safe to assume the bold part below should read wind force 8

    JW: Wind Farce is indeed a nautical term - it's what the South Florida newscasters use when there's a puff of wind somewhere off the coast of Africa. :D
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    Mystic River Marina is an excelant marina good people ,good service, I bought my first 2 new hatteras' from them and it is a shame that they are no longer a dealer, north east dealer is unreliable, no service and only looking to sell new boats then your on your own. Say high to Don,Bob,and Lorin For me
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    Looks nice out there!
  9. NYCAP123

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    Media Hype

    So how much did the media hype cost everyone. On Long Island it was millions of dollars. The Long Island Railroad suspended service to eastern LI for the Friday of Memorial Day weekend. Can you imagine how much $ they lost? Forget what our utility companies spent bringing workers in from around the country and putting everyone on overtime at time and a half. Pascal got the holiday weekend in the NE. Hopefully that didn't come out of his pocket.
    I stopped listening to 5 day forecasts a long time ago and have taught my clients to do the same. The media's storm predictions are many hours to a day early nearly 100% of the time. They do this to extend the story and garner ratings. It's time that everyone understand that the news bureaus have ceased their function of reporting news and are now in the business of creating it. The tail is wagging the dog. I recommend that people go to National Weather Service and NOAA sites, look at the objective data and learn to predict weather for themselves. Use the mute button on the TV whenever the networks talk about news or weather. The media has cried wolf too often to be listened to.
    One amusing note. Yesterday I watched the newsgirl standing on the shore out in Southampton hyping like crazy, talking about the dangerous surf and questioning the safety of the children playing on the beach in front of these tiny rollers lapping the shore. It was impossible not to laugh. She was pretty though; dumb as dirt, but pretty.
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    Actually, it's all about ratings and controling people's actions. The more money and time they can cause people to waste, the more successful they consider themselves. I suspect that most in the news industry also drive 50 mph in the left lane of the LIE going home, if you get my drift.
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    Hi,

    Maybe they learnt that from their parents who have now moved to So Fl.:)
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    :D Ah, the Q-tips in their Cadi's. I remember them well. When they move to the right lane and turn their right signal on get ready for the left turn. Best to be off the road around early-bird special time. Yeah, ours are just practicing for the day.
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    "I recommend that people go to National Weather Service and NOAA sites, look at the objective data and learn to predict weather for themselves."

    correct, unfortunately in this case it was too much of close call to take a chance. Not talking about LIS, or the CHesie, but specifically the Cape Hatteras and Cape Cod Areas.

    you only have a farily narrow window to make the move/no move decision and actually move the boat. When 3 NHC advisories in row (Wed 5pm, 11pm and th. 5am) shift the track gradually over your position you simply can't ignore that and have to make a decision. and again these where the NOAA/NHC official advisories, not the media, not private "experts"

    200NM worth of fuel and 2 nights dockage plus my time is not something i like the owner to spend but in case the storm had not turned early and had not lost it's punch, having to explain why the boat is on the rocks or the bottom is a lot harder.
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    Hi,

    Very well Put.
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    I think we all knew that there would be no telling what Earl would do until it reacted to Hatteras. Yet my 89 year old dog walker/friend started packing a week ago Friday. NOAA & The National Weather Service had and gave the correct information and I don't fault anyone for fleeing Nantauket when a storm is coming. As I mentioned earlier, I've been there/ done that. Not a good place in a storm. It's the media's hyping every situation and creating panic I object to. That's why I say their forecasts should be taken with a grain of salt...better still, the MUTE button.
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    The Long Island Power Authority just announced that they spent $30 million on Earl. Guess we'll now pay for those network ratings.
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    earl who?

    i went out and dropped the hook for the night when earl passed just to get away from the dock.i saw 49kt gust just after midnight and not even too much rain.the boat yard here hauled about 12 boats out for the event and put half of them back in afterwords.so much ado about not much.
    but , its ALWAYS better safe than sorry,especially with my bosses boat that would take me about 100 years of my wages to replace.thats what we get paid to do and what makes a prudent mariner,what did kiwi say?sons of neptune?
    :)
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    Ed,
    On my way back from New England after Earl, I stayed at the Marriott Islandia (exit 58 off LIE). Pulled into the lot and there had to be over 30 utility trucks for tree removal and electical repairs. Hotel had dozens of workers about, figuring out what to do on their last night on LI before driving home on Sunday. One guy I spoke to came from Illinois. Wow, that's a far way. No wonder LIPA has sucha huge price tag. Trouble is, LIPA will most likely have to pay the bill since there was no presidential declaration (charge back to FEMA) or localized disaster (charge back to insurance coverage).
    Then again, if the power was not on the day after the storm or the roads cleared of debris, Long Islanders would be screaming (hey, I know the game as a former and true-to-heart LI'er).
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    LIPA takes very good care of us, but we also pay the price.
    A utility doesn't "pay" anything. One way or another all their expenses will be landing in our mailboxes. Add to that a record high temp summer and their next trip to the PSC will be a killer. Thanks network news.