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From $2.00 gas to $5.00 gas in 4 years

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Codger, May 18, 2008.

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  1. Kevin

    Kevin YF Moderator

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    I just read that in some parts of south-west England & Wales that price of fuel is up to just below US$15.00/USgal... again, all supposedly the fault of the tanker drivers.
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    You mean the tanker drivers are the ones pocketing all those profits. Well, they work hard so good for them. At least it's not some slimey CEO just profiteering.:rolleyes:
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    Not strictly true. There may have been one or two people pushing their prices but generally we are hanging around $4:60 a litre ($18:40 UK Gal) - and we have been at that price for a while now.

    The biggest problem has been getting hold of the stuff, with many garages running dry. The biggest impact has been on the tourist industry which the South West relies on quite heavily. People are unwilling to travel unless they know they can buy fuel to get home.

    The Tanker drivers have now settled the dispute. They currently earn a basic wage of $64,000 to $70,000 per year and claim that it hasn't changed since 1992. They have agreed a 14% increas in basic pay over the next two years.
  4. brian eiland

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    Big Oil and the Enron Loophole

    I think most will find this VERY interesting...how we got to this speculative market in crude oil. I saw this last night, and it was an eye opener:eek: :mad:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdRbuUQNcxw
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    I'm shocked. You're not one of those whaco -left- wing- conspiracy -theorists who believe there are a bunch of Texas oil guys trying to rig the oil commodities market and get authority for off shore and tundra drilling so they can then flood the market with overpriced oil turning themselves from multi-millionaires into multi-Billionaires overnight and creating a huge servant class at the same time are you? I mean, do you realize what kind of political connections that would require?:rolleyes:
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    Hi,

    As an outsider looking I would say those connections seem to already be pretty strong
  7. Kevin

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    I think "dripping sarcasm" should have it's own font. ;)
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    K1W1 , Kevin:rolleyes: ;) :cool:
  9. Codger

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    Speculation.. Futures contracts.
    What the heck is wrong with using the futures markets? If I'm going to need x amount of diesel in Q1 2009 and believe that supply relative to demand is going to result in higher prices then I'd be an idiot not to buy forward and fix my costs ahead of time.
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    Folks,
    I've got a question. It may be a little off topic, but I'm not sure. If so I apologize.
    June 15th was Father's Day. Given their druthers, most guys I know would like to be on their boats. NOBODY WAS OUT.
    Was it the fuel prices or .........
  11. Loren Schweizer

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    From my vantage point on the southern tip of Key Biscayne, yesterday (Sunday) was quite busy with boats. All day long, everything from large sportfishers, motoryachts, a slew of center console boats, scads of waverunner-types (morons!), sailboats...all running (and most were really honkin' along as if to figuratively poke Big Oil/speculators/your-choice-of-bogeyman in the eye) in & out of Biscayne Bay, past the lighthouse, headed to/from Fowey Light and beyond...looked like business as usual on the first Official Summertime weekend.

    Again, boating isn't a matter of life and death....it's much more important than that.
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    Lobbying for Bombing Iran

    The same pundants that brought us Iraq are at it again for Iran

    Kristol says Bush might bomb Iran if he thinks Obama will win (in other words before Bush leaves office in less than 6 months :!: :!: :!: )

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/22/draft-kristol-says-bush-might-bomb-iran-if-he-thinks-obama-will-win/
  13. Codger

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    $11.00 bump

    Perhaps my Nigerian buddies ( I'm being sarcastic) blowing up stuff and taking another 300,000 bbl a day out of production had something to do with it.


    I had to call them my buddies because out of respect for the passing of George Carlin most of the other descriptors I'd like to use are on pause for a couple of days.
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    Considering your "unscheduled stay" with these cannibals, you're being quite the gentleman.

    Godspeed George Carlin. You made us look at ourselves and laugh. You conveyed clarity in a clouded world and turned words into mere idiosyncrasies. Our world is one mind short of sheer brilliance today.
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    Just when everything had been quiet for a while (prices around here have been hovering in the high $1.40's for the past week or two) I hear on the news this morning that a barrel of crude is trading at a record high of $140 and OPEC announced that they expect to see $150-$170 by mid-summer. :rolleyes:

    Thanks guys, now the local filling stations will all jump up and raise their prices. It happens every time OPEN makes a statement about a possible increase... by supper everyone's added $0.10/L to whatever they were charging that morning.

    $5/gallon by Labour Day isn't really a stretch.
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    $1.40 per liter sounds like a gift.
    Since most cars only use "premium", out here it's $1.53 per liter and as of July 1st the Provincial Government is imposing a "carbon tax" of $2.4 per Liter on top of that.
    This should pretty much change our social fabric to some extend, hammer the middleclass and the working man, as well as increase the price on all consumer goods by 5+%.
  18. Kevin

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    I said "high" $1.40s. This week it's been between $1.479 and $1.484 for regular. Premium is generally $0.08 above that, and 94 Octane (only at Pertro-Can) about about $0.06 above that.
  19. brian eiland

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    $2.42 gas in 2015

    :rolleyes:

    If these two segments above get you interested in what was said at the energy hearing in Washington, here are two more surprises ....can you really believe that some young fellow (Bush appointee) would come to this meeting and suggest that they are modeling their energy policy based on a forecast of $2.42 per gallon of gas in 2015 !! What kind of kool-aid are these guys passing around down there in Washington DC ?? No wonder we are in trouble.

    ...have a look at this posting under "Crude" and the two previous ones on that subject thread

    ....just thought these were more applicable to the "Crude" thread
  20. Codger

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    Nothing would surprise me in BC, but it's 2.4 cents a litre, not $2.4 per litre.
    Too bad. Methinks it would have resulted in a change or two in the next government .
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