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From $2.00 gas to $5.00 gas in 4 years

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  1. K1W1

    K1W1 Senior Member

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    Hi,

    As a slight deviation. I went back to the first post in this thread and saw that it was stared nearly 3 yrs ago.

    I also saw that it was started by a one time prolific poster YF Member Codger. It got me looking and I found that it is nearly 2 yrs since he has even logged on to YF. Was there a falling out somewhere along the lines that scared him away? Anyone got any ideas?
  2. NYCAP123

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    Maybe he had to sell his computer to pay for his fuel.:rolleyes:
  3. Kevin

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    Gas just topped $5.60/gal here this morning. There had been some hints about it last night so I managed to fill up before the hike at about $5.20/gal.
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    Kevin....Can I assume your talking gasoline at the roadside pump as I believe you still have ice.
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    Catalina Island Marine Fuel Dock April 11, 2011... Gas $6.42 Diesel $6.58
  6. NYCAP123

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    The word about filling up before the price hikes is just the oil companies distracting the public from the price hike itself. You save a few pennies, but end up filling up sooner the next time at a higher price. So any momentary savings are nearly non-existent for most people. It subconsciously gives you the feeling that you've saved money when in fact we are being ripped off and bent over. Even driving economically doesn't save anything since if less fuel is sold that's another excuse to raise prices further. Notice that there never seems to be an excuse to lower prices? Notice that whatever the excuse it always results in higher profits. Forget wars or embargoes. The reason for price hikes is simple. It's a bunch of greedy ba----ds looking to destroy the world so they can control it. Don't be happy. Raise holy hell with your legislators until they enact price controls or take over the oil companies.:mad:
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    What makes you believe they are "your" legislators?

    Do you believe we got into this mess because it was good for the voters? If you still have that bridge for sale you should start marketing it to the people who believe there is a living breathing legislator who has the slightest interest in saying no to the cash and benefits offered for selling his constituents to his real masters.
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    How would I end up filling up sooner if I just filled it? I'm fairly certain that a full tank means I'll be filling up later (as in 500kms from now) not sooner.

    Besides, I fill up twice a week, so trust me, if I can beat a hike by a day, it makes a difference. Why should I give the oil companies $5-$6 more just because I filled up after supper instead of before? :rolleyes:
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    They're only 'mine' in so far as I can clog up their in-box and not vote for them in the next election (and yes, I know about the electoral college). Yes, I also know who they really represent. That's why we have to hold their feet to the fire and force them to do what they were elected to do.
    Did you hear that Madoff wants to teach ethics? Although he's not directly connected to this topic I think it puts things into perspective well.
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    April 15th is supposedly a nationwide "Gas-Out" day, in protest of prices. Not that it would make a cent of difference in their grand scheme... :mad:
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    I'm marking my calander and will try to carry it on for a few days after. Yes, it's only symbolic, but it's a start.

    Kevin, assume your tank holds 20 gallons and that gas increases .10 a week. You save up to $2.00 filling up today, but they get it back because you'll replace this gas with the gas .20 higher in two weeks rather than gas .10 higher next week. The only real way to save is to not drive as much, but even that won't help as selling less gives them an excuse to hike the prices more.
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    The worse prime minister in Canadian history (we need term limits on bad governance) and he did enact the NEP at the height of the 1970's fuel crisis. Not only anti American it was an Albertan one as well! Alberta has no sales tax so the bums and scums cant steal all the provinces hard earned money!!!! That was originally because of the NEP as protest.

    Not to mention paying the Atlantic provinces a royalty on oil reserves so they don't harvest their offshore major high quality oil! Besides healthcare, this is one of the main reasons fuel tax is so expensive...............................

    Alberta leaves confederation do they own the Crown lands that they colonized? Nope, Hudson Bay Company did. Oooppps, return the lands back to the aboriginal first nations or the British! Hence no private property rights in Canada!
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    Have you ever noticed that they make it nearly impossible for anyone outside their constituency to contact them by email or through their websites?

    You have to make up a fake address within a certain postal code in order to leave a comment. A citizen has to lie to contact them.

    They will happily solicit and accept money from anyone anywhere.

    Why should a corporation in California have the legal right to bribe a Congressman from Kansas?

    Our system is rapidly approaching the likes of those in Africa, Haiti, and other kleptocracies.
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    Sometimes I wish my Mother was not honest and stayed in the United States when visiting my Father with his green card in the United States. It would nice to travel the world even for decades and have my citizenship taken away simply because I was not resident to maintain my rights under citizenship legislation. Man the Founding Fathers of the United States had been brilliant with the President requiring to be native born by way of the Constitution. This legislative citizenship sure makes it hard to be 100% loyal to your native land and defend good governance when you don't have absolute 100% loyalty to defend a Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. To bad my Dad decided to return instead of getting his American citizenship I could at least be always protected abroad 100% even if I didn't pay the master!

    Man that would be awesome, as an American citizen, could I hide my Canadian birth records and become President. Wow I could really do great things hello Alberta do you want to become a US state? Gosh Id be a hero in my Home Country amongst my comrades. Man with a nuclear weapons even the British wouldn't dare block my master plan----darn it can only be a dream!!!!! Geesh that Donald Trump should really leave President Obama alone even a US State says he's a citizen---- :eek:
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    Hi,

    Zudnic- It might surprise you to know that the red carpet is more likely to be rolled out in more places if you are a Canadian as against being a US Citizen.

    Also, there is a lot more to the world than the contiguous 48.
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    You're talking about Congress, but not the Senate. The Senate is easily accessable from anywhere. Unfortunately though, once you contact them you're on their list and get inundated with their e-mails.
    Bribery is illegal no matter who gives it or takes it whether it comes from a California Corp. or the politicos buddy down the block. That's the Achiles heel of the oil industry. It's easy to follow a money trail. Stop the bribes and oil prices will fall. Good luck getting that done however, since most politicos would end up investigating themselves.
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    64 litres, and yesterday between 5pm and 8pm gas went up $0.10/litre.

    Maybe gas prices are more stable (relatively speaking of course) in the US, but here we fluctuate $0.10/litre every few days. That's about $0.38-$0.40/gal every couple of days.

    If it went up $0.10 this week, that doesn't mean it will be up $0.10 next week as well. It'll probably drop $0.04-0.06 by Thursday or Friday morning (when I'll likely need to fill up again) and then Friday afternoon will get jacked back up for the weekend.

    If I hadn't filled up last night I'd have had to do so today, and it would have cost up to $6.40 more than yesterday, and then I'd also be stuck filling up on the weekend when it would again be just as high.
  19. K1W1

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    Hi,

    Diesel is a few cents less here today than yesterday but is still the equivalent of $8.09 a US Gal
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    If I could have had US citizenship, Id keep both. If I was native born in the USA, I like the Constitutional protection built in. I'm anti Canadian system of government as practiced by those in government. Much like history teaches the U.S founding Fathers had been with creating the United States. It was not against the actual Kingdom of Britain. More or less against the tools of the monarchs used by government in the Crowns name.

    The Bush administration needed congress to go into war. Tony Blair went before the British parliament declare war or I'll just advise the Queen to use the Royal Prerogative. Or the current Prime Minister asked/advised the Governor General to suspend Canada's Parliament. I like that a President cant ask the Head Of State to suspend other branches of government to avoid situations like government shut down do to budget crisis.

    Canada is currently holding Federal elections--I'm Conservative but I'm not a fan of Prime Minister Harper. I like my districts member of Parliament and do not agree with the other parties members who are running for Parliament. Nor do I like the Federal leaders of these parties. A vote for my MP is a vote for Harper as well. So my only choice is not voting and risk losing my MP!

    Oh well at least Canada is a friendly dictatorship! Maybe one day our beloved Queen will be advised by a Prime Minister to appoint a Saudi Prince Governor General of Canada. Our Haitian born former one was wise enough to use the Royal Prerogative to prevent the majority of Eastern Liberals and those Quebec Separatist from over removing our elected government. A Saudi why the British really taught them well how to manage their oil! Wow how grand would that be like the Middle East. I wonder if I could convince an electable in Ontario federal political party to make me leader of the party. Get enough MP's first past the post. As an oil rich country with a Saudi Gov general just imagine the Official Royal Canadian Yacht I as Prime Minister could have!!!!!! Martin got over $100 million as finance minister in government contracts for his offshore shipping company. Man wonder how much the Prime Minister could get. Oh man lying Brian only got $60,000 cash in a paper bag! Maybe being prime minister isn't so great a dream after all.
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