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Cutting through the Keys

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by benjay, Sep 1, 2022.

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  1. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

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    There is PLENTY of water there for your boat. The dog leg is a lot wider than it looks.
  2. benjay

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    Thanks Capt J. Look forward to making this passage. Seems the shoaling near Sprigger Bank is a big issue on Active Captain.
  3. Capt J

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    Follow the waypoints on the paper chart........ The problem with people on Active Captain is they follow their GPS which the charts are all off....... I've taken 90' MY's through there with no problem.
  4. Capt Ralph

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    Active Captain is a guide to be taken with some grains of salt,,,
    maybe some tequila and lime also. :):)
  5. StillLearning

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    Active Captain is not as good as it used to be. It's value was always in the fact it was crowd sourced with lots of current updates, now not many updates.

    But even in its best time, as a power boater you had to use with caution. Sail boaters are more comfortable bumping their keel, or even getting hung up for a few hours than I am with running gear.
  6. MBevins

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    Active Capn is basically useless now, there haven't been many, if any updates since Garmin took over. There was only one winner in that sale.
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  7. motoryachtlover

    motoryachtlover Senior Member

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    I don’t understand how all of it works but Aqua Map has Active Captain content that has been recently updated. It is relatively inexpensive and I really like it and find it very useful. I don’t use active captain any more. Aqua Map is adding weather overlays I believe and seems to be constantly making improvements. You all should take a look if you have not already.
  8. StillLearning

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    Guessing that what you are seeing is that there is still a few people updating information in Active Captain, but nothing like before.

    I was an early adopter of Active Captain, then Blue Chart which was the first pad/phone integration of Active Captain. I have purposely retained an old ios version on my iPad just so I could still go into Blue Chart. From what I heard an ios upgrade would render it unusable.

    Started messing with Aqua Map and Navionics a couple of years ago, but still would go to Blue Chart to check tides, currents, or previous routes I had saved.

    I have now decided Aqua Maps is my future. Finally I am giving up Blue Chart (and going to upgrade my iPad).

    One of the key features with Aqua Maps is the overlay of Corp of Engineers survey data. Years ago prior to a major trip north or south I would actually download survey data, print it out, and keep in a binder on the helm. My preference is always to run outside, but if forced into the ICW, the surveys were very helpful.

    Now two things have occurred. I get the surveys via an overlay on the chart in Aqua Maps and CoE is much more aggressive in doing surveys (better data). If a person is ever on the ICW the survey data has impact.

    Does anyone remember bob123? He posts route files on the internet for problem areas on the ICW. Tremendously helpful. Aqua Map with overlays are just as impactful.
  9. motoryachtlover

    motoryachtlover Senior Member

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    Still learning you made a great point about the COE overlays. I pay for those as well. I downloaded Bob123’s track for the intracoastal and it was very helpful. I like you would rather run outside but weather doesn’t always allow. I am a Aquamap fan till someone buys them out and ruins it.
  10. Capt Ralph

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    Are the Explorer Charts still up? I recall a few still liked those charts very much.
    Sadly, I have watched the Active Captain charts in my area fall far behind.
    I also can not trust the comments from XYZ persons. Reminds me of FB.
  11. Pascal

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    Aqua map is really good especially in the Bahamas since they use explorer charts. Yes explorer charts are still being updated and published, gold standard for the Bahamas unlike Garmin / Navionics which now have many errors.
  12. Capt J

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    I use Aquamap in the states and Bahamas. I like it, only gripe I have is the color shading, the 2 different blues are really hard to differentiate in sunlight at a glance. The old Garmin app was the absolute best, but long gone.
  13. Pascal

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    Yes I used Garmin Bluecharts for year and back then they used explorer charts for the Bahamas. Then Garmin bought Navionics and started incorporated the awful Navionics Bahamas data into their charts. A number of boats have ran aground because of that incl a catamaran destroyed on the reef at Gtown southern entrance a few years back

    a few months ago a friend of mine nearly ran aground with an 80 hatt coming in the north entrance. He had just updated the charts on his Garmin plotter and it showed the deeper water along stocking instead of the dogleg close to GE
  14. benjay

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    So Pascal what nav chart software/setup would you recommend? I was even thinking of have 2 standalone systems with separate GPS antennas.
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    c-map uses Explorer charts, I know it can be used with Furuno Navnet, not sure which other system can use C-map

    explorer charts are also used by Aquamap for iOS and droid.

    if you can’t install C-maps on your nag system, then cross check with aquamap on an iPad or the actual chart book