Cape Horn Yachts

(1) "What does me being out on one or out on one at sea have to do with anything? How does it have relevance to anything being discussed at all???"

Because I have successfully concluded 19 Cape Horn sales, attended survey and sea trial on 16 of them, and have been to the Cape Horn yards numerous times. I am still in contact with almost every owner and previous owner from a 20 year history. I can factually substantiate almost every opinion that I share. And that's my point. I am trying to share informed knowledge and experience to help anyone reading these posts but unfortunately the information and facts get muddled with extraneous non-CH experienced opinions.

For example:
(2)"Didn't the last owner of Cape Horn build the last/final 3 or 4 boats in Asia???"

As specified in my post #139, all Cape Horn trawlers were built at the 3 Canadian yards stated. NONE were built in China.

I must say that having seen one AFT-built CH 63 and a Kanter-built CH 55, while as you might remember the first had been rather neglected back in those days, I did like her much better than the latter.
Size and other differences aside, AFT construction stroke me as better than Kanter (can't comment on Caraquet builds, which I've never seen).
So, in this respect CJ's point might appear valid.

Still, I'm not sure of what he means when he said...
"This is the problem when a Yacht "builder or manufacturer" isn't really a builder or manufacturer and sub-contracts the entire build process to a seperate entity".
I mean, this is not a problem per se, because it ain't something that the owner speccing the boat is not aware of.
Unless he decides not to care at all about construction, but I think that's unusual, with boats like these.

FWIW, I've also seen Nordhavns built by Ta-Shing, and others built in their own (well, almost, but let's leave that aside) Chinese factory.
And guess what? I'd have the first rather than the latter, any day of the week.
Now, would I still spend a lot of time in Taiwan myself, if I should buy a Nordie built by Ta-Shing, forking out an outrageous amount of money? Heck, yeah, of course.
BUT, I'm not sure I would fancy having anything at all built in Xiamen, to start with.
Nonetheless, all of them carry the same shiny logo...

Well I did understand what you literally meant.
What I'm saying is that the implications aren't as 1 to 1 as you describe them.
I could name "self-sufficient" builders whose boats I wouldn't touch with a barge pole, as well as others using sub contractors with much better results.
If you are convinced that what you are suggesting is always the case, I assume you are not taking any flight operated with a Boeing airplane, right?

Julie, I don't know if Peter is checking the forum regularly, but I also have the PDF file of his book you are interested in.
And since he already said that he was willing to send it to anyone interested, I guess he wouldn't have any objection if I forward it to you.
It's 3 Mb, so larger than the max size that the forum accepts for attachments, but small enough to be sent as an email attachment.
If you just send me a PM with your mailbox (don't post it directly in this thread, administrators don't like that), I'll email it to you.

Thanks, Paolo! I have the brochure on PDF. I have some of the original hardcopy brochures that I treasure.

Thanks! You're always so willing to help.

J

Thanks to you Judy, I just try to do what I can - particularly when it's as easy as in this case.

BTW, I just re-checked my PDF file, and I noticed something that never grabbed my attention before.
According to the index, there should be four appendixes (A to D), but in my file there are only A, B and D.
Appendix C is missing, and its title as shown in the index is rather intriguing: "Model Profiles & Suggested General Arrangements".
If by chance this appendix is included in your version of the PDF file (or if you have that also as a separate PDF), I'd be curious to have a look at it.

It's missing in the one I have on PDF which is March 2003. However, my brochure from May 2002 has it. I'll ping Peter and see if he has that on PDF.

The only one Peter has currently available on PDF is with the missing Appendix C. I can scan the pages from the hardcopy I have. Appendix C has 2-4 pages per model, models 65, 75, & 95. Which ones are of interest?

Many thanks, Judy.
The size I used to be interested in was up to 65' max, but as I think to have told you, by now mine is just a curiosity, rather than a real interest.
My boating choices in the last decade made me drift away from my old passion for long distance cruising, for several reasons which are of no interest to the forum.
So, even if I'd like to have a look at those profiles, I don't want you to waste any time scanning them just for me.
Whenever you should do it for any clients of yours, if you'll remember to email me a copy, I'd appreciate.

Follow-up:

Julie has received the Cape Horn brochure via email.
Mapism has received the scans for the CH65.

Judy

Receipt acknowledged, thanks a lot Judy.
It would be nice if active builders would be half as responsive as CH still is now, after several years.
Makes me wonder how pleasant the experience of building a boat with your and Peter's support could have been!