Canadian Regulations Question

The 24m comes from post 11. I read just fine although maybe, specifically for your benefit, I should have said 24m PLUS. I think most half-way intelligent and less picayune readers understood that my question was not relating to size, but was asking (and not stating) if he was referring to sail since he used that phrase. Although you "sailed" on a submarine most of us "cruise" on cruisers and motoryachts. Now maybe you should try giving DONUT the specific answer to the question he is asking since you know all. That's as much time as I'm wasting on you in this thread.

Marmot,
Thank you ever so much for correcting me. I forgot that the two are not interchangeable or even directly related. I do indeed recall that there is a difference now that you have reminded me. My experience is more in the smaller yacht range and I tend to think more in terms of the weight of the vessel and whether or not the Travelift® can handle the load without collapsing or dropping the hull.

I don't think so, cap. The man used 24m because that is the regulatory cutoff between little boats and "large yachts." It is where the Large Yacht Code comes into effect. It is a critical waypoint in the path to certification (licensing) of yacht crew.

Like I said, there are books about this sort of thing if you want to learn something about the kind of boats the original poster is talking about.

I think Donut got a very specific answer to his question. He got a reference to the relevent document published by the organization that issues the license he seeks, and a suggestion that he contact them directly to obtain an official response.

[QUOTE='roundthehorn]I tend to think more in terms of the weight of the vessel and whether or not the Travelift® can handle the load without collapsing or dropping the hull.[/QUOTE]

Which is far more important to most of us than what makes the tax collector's world go 'round.

[QUOTE='roundthehorn]FYI...From the Nordhavn site -- http://www.nordhavn.com

N68 Displacement: 230,000 lbs./104.3 MT
N72 Displacement: 240,000 lbs./108.8 MT
N76 Displacement: 252,000 lbs./114.3 MT
N86 Displacement: 400,000 lbs./181.4 MT[/QUOTE]

Gross Tons is a measurement based on interior volume of the vessel and some other calculations. It has NOTHING to do with actual displacement.

Thanks again, CaptJ. Got it. As indicated above, my memory got that jumpstart after Marmot reminded me.

Used to run a 60 Pred. Fun boat! Garners a lot of attention. We did many weekends with 5 & 6 people and were comfortable. About 106gph at about 30kts. with 1050 Mans. She handled well except in a head sea. 7' emptied the fridges and sent us to the inside. The boat can be handled easily by one or two people. The machinery has pretty good accessability. The exhaust elbows rusted out in the 3rd year. Otherwise few problems while I was with her.

Make sense? That's just smart. The fellow I ran for had an '01 or '02 if I remember correctly. He bought it 1 season old with about 50 hours, saved major bucks and got a boat that was broken in. It was his first boat. I taught him and ran with him for 2 years including a run to Miami. He still has it. Since my time with him he runs it himself with family or a friend.

DK the GT for the 60 Pred, but it should be considerably under 100GT. Don't count on bow & stern thrusters. That's amature time. The trick to single handing is not getting into the dock; it's in handling the boat while hooking up the lines (being 2 places at the same time while the boat may be trying to move away via wind/current). You can get a wireless Yachtcontroller. The 68 is probably Azimmuts biggest seller. Personally I don't like Azimuts, but use the search function here and you'll find plenty of opinions with specifics.

Ahem! My wife's Italian. Then again she too has her moments. DK about the Canadian licensing regs, but from what you described in post #1 wouldn't you be looking for an inland or near-coastal license, and have you made it clear in your questions to T.C. that this boat is for personal use? BTW, 88 is a big boat. Do you have that kind of experience running and maintaining? I recently checked over that 60 I used to take care of and was very disappointed with how the engine room was maintained. These are complicated machines.

A diesel course is a beautiful thing, but that's only a small portion of what you'll be dealing with. I generally describe the systems on a boat like those mentioned as equivilant to (2) tractor trailers plus a small apartment building. Electrical ac/dc 12 & 24V, plumbing, a/c, electronics, bilge pumps, Jabsco pumps, generators, and the list goes on. Spend some time crawling around several bilges. See how several mfgs lay out their boats. Go past the pretty to the guts.