I didnt mean to kick off a multi page thread..... i am not anti Bertram... i love the 1960's 30' SF, the 46 and even the 54...... I own anohter brand production SF that has less of a sea reputation than the Bertram but the interior is nicer.... isnt there some difference with documented vessels with regards to documented vessels made in the US vs those made outside the US? with regares to commerce? charter or something like that? I am sorry to Bertram for kicking off this anti Betram delamination thing....... funny but my Bertram owning buddies are quick to hammer the other brand production SF that i own......