Bertram 630 Sportfish Sinks?

as much as all teh speculation about the missing transom can be very entertaining to read, it really doens't matter since we dont' know what happened to the boat while on the bottom. Nobody really knows what happens on the bottom during a storm. Remember that old ship that was sunk as a reef off Key Largo? what's the name... Speigel Grove or something? she sunk the wrong way then a few weeks or month later she was straitghtened up by currents resulting from a storm.

so the transom and most of the damage is irrelevant. The big question is why did the boat sink and the only thing that everybody agrees on is that something happens at the bow, either a collision (Bertram's claim) or a massive failure.

wild theories about a tow cable, a bomb, explosive decompression, the captain backing down hard to keep water out, the loch ness monster, a boat dragging anchor or the boat hitting a massive crapberg of BS drifting all the way from Washington DC are nothing more than entertaining speculation.

spare me on your entertainment comment..

I deal with raw facts...

stick to the subject at hand

where is the transom, and how did it seperate like that so cleanly? it may/may not have anything to do with the deck lift, but it's a mystery thats part of the puzzle.. this is unprecedented, the current didn't CLEANLY rip off the transom..

This thread is so long, can somebody tell me what page the pictures are on, I want to review them again?

Well, the weakest part of any lay-up is where you have 90 degree bends. Sharp edges break a lot easier then soft bends. It's also where you have two different directions of forces meeting each other........the deck flexing up and down, and the transom flexing fore and aft such as backing down.........

Personally I don't think the boat hit anything except possibly a wave, there is nothing under the waterline to indicate that.

The 57' Bertram I ran did exactly the same thing as this one (without the catastrophic results). The bulkhead to stringer tabbing broke free.......everywhere......cleanly, no tearing. What made me look at everything very carefully was above the door to the day head, the joinery cracked from doorway to ceiling. Bertram explained that it had too much hardener in it, cured too quickly, therefore causing it to be brittle.

You know......where the transom broke would be about the area where your rear rod holders would be mounted and a 2"-3" hole in the top of the gunnel would weaken that area........

I think the pictures are in a totally seperate thread......search under bertram pics.....I think the link was around page 22

Thanks for the link, these frames were taken from a video correct? Who has the video and could it be posted on the forum?

sorry if you feel that way, i've been around more than you know and seen a LOT more than you know... I also have personal contact on that assembly line...

i'll stand aside

BREAKING NEWS!

Sources have discovered a witness to the accident. In fact his boat was hit by the 63 and we have uncovered a photo taken just seconds before impact.






















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Here it comes......................

I wonder if YF can tell us if Shazam has beed banned from posting. I haven't seen anyother posts in quite a while.

There's no need to personally attack the guy. From Buizilla's post, it sounds like he is saying, he has physically seen (with his eyes) more on this situation, then you know about it.......that is what I read from it..... He also mentions he has contacts on the assembly line.......so it sounds like he has been there a few times...... I don't know him in any: way, shape, or form.......but this is what I read from it,

YF: I guess I don't understand the rules of this forum. Can you explain what you mean.

Well....... it IS his website.
If you don't like it, don't come here. Pretty simple if you ask me.

I hear you Capt J. I viewed what he wrote as an attack on Carl & I took it personally.

Carl, if you could be so kind as to remove my post as well as this where it's quoted.
Thank ya sir!

I may be reading between the lines but I'm sensing a thinly vieled threat. Your sign in page contains the following statement:

"YachtForums DOES NOT share information or e-mail addresses with outside sources!"

With your last post there is a shadow of doubt cast over this statement.

Were there any May Day calls broadcast, before the boat sunk? Any calls to the Coast Guard?