Bertram 630 Sportfish Sinks?

As far as the anchor falling off while at speed.

This appears to be the same boat and it doesn't look like it has an anchor pulpit or exposed anchor:

http://www.**************/boats/2006/Bertram-630-2073929/Lindenhurst/NY/United-States

I think the helm pod is jammed underneath the console where your feet would be. I can't imagine how fast this thing must have stopped and I'm surprised the captain and mate aren't injured.

The use of the term "paint type" may be meaningful. How many types of bottom paint are commonly used? Just for the sake of argument, how many boats are running around with Micron 66 for example?

If they said the paint transfer on the buoy exactly matched the paint on the hull of the wreck in a spectroscopic analysis, it might mean something.

It has the bow-rail which means it should have a pulpit and exposed anchor. On the 57' I was running, the anchor pulpit was seperating from the hull.

This is the first sentence in that ad on yachtworld:

At 40+ knots the 630 is the fastest, strongest Bertram ever! The Bertram 630, a direct descendent of the Legendary Bertram 54 and 60 platform, has over 40 new improvements along with the sleeker profile, luxurious amenities, and the exceptional build quality found in all of today's Bertrams.

The 63 has absolutely nothing to do with the 54 or the 60. NOTHING other than they're all pointy on one end and kinda square on the other.

Pic #26, i think it backs up my theory a little. if the buoy ripped the boat apart there would of been a fracture in the glass (support bulkhead). None of that can been seen. To me it looks like its been pulled apart slowly, and I feel that this was already damaged before all this happen.

That was the quote directly from their ad on Yachtworld that was listed I believe by you for this boat. I believe it came from Bertrams website from a while ago.

Let me add my $.02 here:

OnThePins, you need to understand that YF, as it may have a mod or publisher, is in reality mainly a site for us and by us. Sure the publisher chimes in, but it's the rest of us and our input and expertise that keeps this site running.

The decision to publish information on this sinking and to post the photos/video shots did not come easy. Carl did not rush to post and scoop; in actuality, he was very reserved, with heavy consideration as to the impact and result of showing such photos. But as with anything else, we collectively, as captains, owners, builders, etc want to know what happened. Because it could happen to most anyone of us.

Carl and I talked and discussed this thread for over a week. When I told him we would be in receipt of these photos/videos, I could see in him a genuine concern for those involved. And as a journalist/reporter/writer, we both had to make sure we were reporting facts and not adding (too much) to the rumor mill. The decision to post these photos did not come easy or quickly, and took a bit of soul searching to determine if it was the proper thing to do.

Additionally, he had no problem with my posting the response from Mike Myers of Bertram. Hey, that's fair journalism. Mike has every right to explain his side just like others have done. As the saying goes, "There's three sides to every story; one side, the other side and the truth".

Although we may never certainly know the course of events that sent this yacht to it's current resting place, as journalists we have an obligation to share critical information and show all sides of the story. All we want are the facts, ma'am.

i guess the skipper is back in the good books.

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I thought Bertrams were gelcoated, not painted. What paint transfer is Mike Meyers referring to... bottom paint? lots of boat using the same bottom paint.

Mike is refering to bottom paint (I had asked him the same question and needed to clarify). If the buoy was run over then it would have probably run along the bottom of the hull, that's the theory.

it also looks like the core is not adhering to the outer layer…? I think the boat CERTIFIABLE may come back into question.

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No, not really, this should have been a subrogation issue, instead the owner is having to litigate. There are multiple issues here.

multiple issues, not wrong there Henning. but im not doing a degree in law, so ill leave that one.

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The pics are great. I use to be in the marine salvage business and have recovered a vessel that sank from a mechanical failure. It had the transom pretty destroyed also. But I always thought it was caused by the vessel bouncing around on the bottom nose up. But with this Bert's bow missing that's not likely, I guess. Is it possible the boat has been bouncing or rolling around from sea action? I'm on the West Coast and wrecks commonly move around on the sea floor.
BTW, I feel this is very interesting and needs to be learned from. Can a separate or will there or can there be another posting that has fresh update factual information regarding this issue. I'm finding it a bit difficult to sift through all this. Maybe it's too soon?

the only facts that exist at this point as (as far as I know.. please correct me if I'm missing anything)

1. A 630 Betram sank off the coast of NC. Delivery Crew was aboard, and is safe now.
2. There is a court order about salvaging it (or lack thereof).
3. SCUBA Divers have recorded 20ish minutes of video footage of the boat as she rests on the floor in roughly 80 feet of water.
4. There is a 'gash' in a buoy (Bill Perry Jr. Reef Buoy) at approx. 33*25.775'N 78*33.145'W
5. Yachtforums has published images from the video that was recorded by the SCUBA divers.
6. The boat had a catastrophic failure with massive damage to her hull, both forward and aft.
7. Betram has released two memos regarding the incident.

As far as I know... those are the only *facts*, and there are lots of other "I heard.... ____" floating around, laced with ideas, opinions, additional questions, theories, etc. etc. etc.

I would venture to say that YF's objective in posting the images was to put some facts in place, and leave the theories, questions, I think.... etc. etc. etc. to this thread, along with the discussions that we exchange on the topic.