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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by RossC, Aug 13, 2023.

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  1. CaptTom

    CaptTom Senior Member

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    Ross, so sorry to hear of your troubles. You are past Fort Pierce but call Derecktors (You probably went right past their yard with the humongous lift). Call and see if they can give you a haulout and block (772) 595-9326, or if they can recommend another yard. Good luck!
  2. gr8trn

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    Oh no, what a bummer to say the least. Keep up the good work Ross from a fellow Saint Bernard boater.
  3. RossC

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    My other option is to keep on rolling and deal with it when we get home. My only concern is the stbd side being a little harder to turn than the port. Could this damage the transmission? Temps and pressures are the same on both transmissions. The vibration is minimal and only noticeable at 1000 rpm.

    having a hard time thinking the stbd strut is bent when there is no visible damage to the prop.
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    Based on Derektors phone menu system, they don’t sound like the kind of yard that would want to mess with my little 44’ boat on short notice, but ,albeit they know someone who will.
  5. Pascal

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    Sorry to hear about your troubles.

    The stbd shaft could be harder to turn because of a tighter cutlass bearing. does your survey mention anything? Although if it s just a little tight it could have been within tolerance and the surveyor didn’t mention that there was a difference. If the shaft was hard to turn because of damage in the grounding, you can be sure the prop would be damaged.

    if the vibration is very minimal at 1000 rpm, if the shaft seal isn’t leaking and if you don’t see any obvious wobble on the shaft, you may want to keep on going, you could even run that one at lower RPM to eliminate vibration and run the the other a little faster. Not ideal but I doubt you re going to hurt anything else

    plus you have quite a few difficult spots ahead on the ICW…
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    Hmmm. I get the temptation. If you do you may have to map out the haul out facilities on your route and have options. Better safe and get her out of the water. How fast are you at sub 1000 rpm? What if you need more than 1000 rpm?
  7. RossC

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    No mention in the survey. I can’t tell if there is shaft wobble. Hard to tell with 6” visibility turning the shaft and trying to see any wobble. It has drip less shaft seals. Kind of over my head here. A million miles from home and even finding a transient slip is a nightmare. Had to anchor last night after calling every marina between west palm and Jupiter. I found a few smaller yards in ft Pierce, but I have to be off this dock by 10am.

    The yard beside our home marina would haul and knock this out in a day.
  8. RossC

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    about 7kts at 800 rpm. 32kts at 2650 but you won’t be passing any fuel docks.
  9. RossC

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    So just spitballing here. What would it cost to hire a guy to assist all the way to MD…or at least to Norfolk. Norfolk to home is only a few hours and easier to get a flight home from Norfolk.

    Problem here is that my back is shot. Couldn’t get a steroid injection prior to the trip and I’m the only one who can run the boat. Wife is getting better at handling lines but knows nothing about running the boat and rules of the road. It is so miserably hot, we can only get a half day in or so before we are wiped out.

    trying to stay positive, but buying a boat so far from home might have not been my wisest decision.
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    Vero is MM 950 on the ICW so that’s about 830nm. 10 hours a day at 8.5 kts hull speed… it s about 10 days to Norfolk without vibration. Figure $400 a day for an experienced captain… $4k-$5k

    No air con on the FB? One word: horseflies. Every time I ve transited north Florida, GA And SC, I had Hundreds of them on the glass of the skylounge trying to get in :( Maybe by august they re not as bad as in may but just a heads up
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    Do you have Sea Tow or TowBoat US, in case you do run it and have an issue?
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    FB has AC and a door over the staircase should limit horseflie intrusion.
  13. RossC

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    Yes, have BoatTowUS. The bridge has AC and a door but in todays heat you wouldn’t know it was there. We have the AC and fans running. Still ended up opening the isinglass just got some air flow. Made Jupiter yesterday. Todays plan was Melbourne/Palm Bay, but by noon we toast.

    We’ll see how I make out with this prop issue.
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    Thinking I have to get it taken care of. Can’t see a bent strut with no prop damage, but I’d like to know why it is tighter than the port.
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    That happens sometimes. It can wait till you get home.
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    Unless it’s a real issue that was missed on survey. They missed LOTS of things on this boat.
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    They always miss lots of things. There are so many things.

    Maybe post a help wanted ad on Yacht Captains section in this forum with your situation and abilities and there is at least a chance of finding help.
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    Sorry to hear your trip is starting out with challenges. I think the question of hauling or not really comes down to two things:

    1- Can you find a yard that is available and will haul you and work on the boat/props right away without you sitting there for days waiting.

    2- If you can find a a yard, what is your personal appetite for running home as is vs wanting to know your real situation? For me, I would haul if available as the stress and concern of not knowing for sure would be an issue for me. Others will feel differently and have the ability to not worry about these things. Thus my comment that it is really something only you can decide.

    Hope your trip becomes more enjoyable for you!
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    Ross,
    your coming up to Port Canaveral, Cape Marina has a good yard and lift. Here is their info you could call ahead or email.
    https://capemarina com
    321 783 8410

    Best of luck with your travels.
  20. RossC

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    So my wife’s cousin has a friend the captains a Leopard 58 that is based in Fort Pierce. We are docked at Harbortown Marina. Diver wants $1600 to remove and replace 2 props. No idea what Stuart Prop would charge and what it will cost to them there and back. Rental car probably.

    General consensus is about the same as what you all said. If did enough damage to bend a strut or shaft, the prop would be badly damaged, and it’s not. The yard beside my home marina will haul round trip for $600 and repair the props for $200 each if they aren’t badly damaged. If I don’t want to haul he will loan me a prop puller, or I can buy one.

    I’m trying to find a tech that can just check shaft alignment on stbd and confirm that it is OK. I don’t know how tight is too tight for a cutlass bearing. Don’t know if there is misalignment and don’t want to damage a transmission.

    I’ll call them tomorrow and see what they have to say.