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Another ship having a bad day

Discussion in 'YachtForums Yacht Club' started by chesapeake46, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. jhall767

    jhall767 Senior Member

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    I see a Spanish tug shadowing them and another search and rescue tug looks like it is headed to a rendezvous point with them. It may just be they are want to re-rig the tow lines and make a harbor approach in the morning.
  2. Capt Ralph

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    I wonder if there playing the winds and swells till favorable to make a port. . Any wind history/forecast available?
  3. Capt Ralph

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    Any of those Costa floats still available? Lay one or two on the high side and flood them.

    I duno and I'm sure some expert has thought of it, Why not flood the high side bilge? Would it then be to much draft to get her in the channel?

    That had to be ALLOT of shifted cargo.
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    Another thought, We now know how far these big-cans can list without rolling over.
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  6. olderboater

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    An update:

    Port authority of Bilbao and SMIT Salvage agreed on towing MODERN EXPRESS into Bilbao in the morning Feb 3, caravan is to spend the night some 20 nm north of Bilbao, holding against the wind and the sea, which are seemingly calming down. French ships left the scene, three tugs are deployed: CENTAURUS (IMO 9433755); MARIA DE MAEZTU (IMO 9429091) and RIA DE VIGO (IMO 8311417).
    Meanwhile, the Gabon Ministry of Economy expressed its’ shock in finding out, that logs were said to be on board of MODERN EXPRESS , not sawn timber. According to papers, 4089 tons of sawn timber were loaded, while logs export is prohibited. Ministry of Economy launched an investigation.
    https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2016/11351/modern-express-under-tow-update-feb-3-0000-utc/
  7. Capt J

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    hehehe......make labor too expensive and cut out the labor and take the logs where it's cheaper to mill them.....guess they'll find out soon enough. Would guess it's also more difficult to properly secure logs versus sawn timber thats uniform in size and square.
  8. olderboater

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    Could get interesting. The ship owner may end up wishing it had sunk.
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    Interesting twist to the story... Although I doubt labor cost is a concern in Africa...

    And how the heck did nobody noticed 4000 tons of logs being trucked in! Only in Africa...
  10. jhall767

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    When I worked at a steel mill we could buy 6" square bars and heat them enough (2000F++) to compact them into 9" rounds cheaper than we could buy the 9" rounds in the first place. Always wondered how much of that cost difference was shipping due to them being round.

    BTW: Vessel is now inside the harbor.
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    There is a lot of stuff in the NZ Press about the export of ancient Kauri Logs, There are laws that state it can only be exported as slabs or finished articles so as to add some value to the local economy other than dragging it out of the swamps. No one seems to pay attention to these and whole logs leave in containers.
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    Not sure containers roll thru the bilges that well.
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    It was more a comment of the practice of log exports instead of processed timber being widespread.
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    At one time, not so long ago that was typical of foresting laws in just about every country for the very reasons you stated. Nowdays we have a world economy I guess.