Ady Gil (Earthrace) Sunk By Japanese Whalers

So you believe that actually deliberately causing a collision between your vessel and another is safer than maintaining a safe distance?

Right on!

When it ends a continued assault and attack that will eventually lead to my vessel being disabled, you **** well bet. They are trawling a line around them and trying to force them to foul their props. They began the aggression, not the Japanese. When you claim Pirate status (and Paul does, which is why he flies the Jolly Roger) you become a target. Sea Sheppard guys are acting outside of the law in an aggressive manner intending to do harm, as they have done before. They have no complaint to file, and since they operate under no flag, have no court in which to file it. They are after publicity first and foremost, and in that, they fulfilled their mission.

Unfortunatelly, tons of earlier recordings (avialable on link above if I'm not mistaken) indicate that it is, let's say, very hard to "keep a safe distance" from a faster and more maneuvrable vessel that absolutely does not intend to keep a safe distance from you.

Well, I can see how it helps the drama. I also see how it helps in wasting obviously excessive money (sell that black hottie and deposit the money, I'm sure I can negotiate the depicted ship to say out of operation for longer then this collision caused it to - and have some good change left in my pokets). I simply fail to understand how pissing people off far beyond limit is supposed to make them beter listeners to your point, even if you got one...

Especially when you alter your course to starboard for a direct intercept!

There were no innocents involved. When you pick a fight, you're gonna get swung at, in this case, the big guy made contact.

LOL...you're funny!

Repeating link from opening post:
http://www.icrwhale.org/gpandsea.htm
(you might consider actually watching some)

Here you've got plenty of efforts to handle it differently. Says something?

It looked to me like the Ady Gil throttled up and pulled right in front of the Japanese boat. If you look at the videos from the ship you can see propwash from forward thrust on the Ady Gil just as it goes in front of the Japanese boat.
I have seen these idiots in action on the show and I can't understand why they are not all in jail. There is absolutely no excuse for acting like that on the high seas. And no that does not mean that I "support whale killing"

For them to say that the Japanese ship "suddenly started it's engines and rammed them" is obviously a blatant lie. Anyone who watches either video can see that was not the case. Any one who knows anything about boats/ships that size already knew that could not have been how it happened.

Hi,

It sure looks like the Ady Gil is going ahead on both rightup to and including the impact, trying to force the give way rule I guess, it also looks like they managed to get both going astern after the crunch.

Interestingly , If they want to claim some sort of mechanical problem stopped them and the Japs mowed them down there should gave been a day shape or flag flown to indicate this prior to the incident. I have not seen one in any of the videos and pictures that have been flying around today.

I doubt the greater majority of the SS crew even knows what daymarkers are.



They know their hemp though.

I read somewhere else that the Ady Gil was approaching the Shonan Maru at cruising speed and cut her throttles just in front of the Shonan Maru. If that is true it's entirely possible the Japanese skipper swung right to pass behind the Ady Gil. When he saw the Ady Gil had slowed he swung his ship back to port to try and avoid the now impending collision. Did anyone else see this about the Ady Gil cutting speed in front of the Shonan Maru?

Another good observation someone here made is about the flat calm water in the photos. In the video the water is very rough. In the photo, the water is flat calm and the japanese vessel is magically right there in the background.
yeeeaaaa...... riiiiiiiight.....
looks like some very nice photoshop work to me.

Same reason that the Japanese aren't there either. Who's gonna put them in jail? They are operating as pirates meaning they operate under no flag authority. The Aussies harbor them, the Steve Irwin berths right up the Brisbane River from us. The Japanese operate under Japan's flag and they harbor them. Neither are acting illegally really, just against treaty. If you can find a state that will provide you refuge, you can pretty much do what you please on the open sea until someone challenges you. There is no State challenging the Japanese even though they also operate outside of international conventions, so Paul is taking them on. Since most of the world is against the Japanese on this issue, none of them challenge the Sea Sheppard vessels (nor do they support them). I'm not sure that the Japanese are committing naval forces or not to protect their merchant fleet in this, but I am sure they will not prosecute the actions of their flag vessel either.

The Southern Ocean is a big no mans land as far as this goes, and it's been left for the epic battles between Sea Sheppard and the Whaling fleet. You have to remember though, whaling ships arent the only things Sea Sheppard goes after. He used to attack drift netters in the Pacific as well. In a way, keeping Paul and his crew busy in the Southern Ocean with a couple of whalers, leaves the rest of the Pacific wide open for the rest of their fishing fleet.

Hi,

I would suggest that you get some offshore sea miles under your belt if that is "very rough water".

The only white water visible is around the boats themselves, hardly the sign of rough weather in my experiences.

It appears that the Ady Gil has not actually gone to Davy Jones Locker just yet.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/3210524/Whale-war-boat-awaits-salvage

sometimes i wish to own a submarine,maybe even with torpedos on board, these "research" vessels wouldn't be there anymore...

the video from the different angle shows how the whale-vessel turns toward the black one, thats some kind of new era...

Look at this video

http://player.video.news.com.au/perthnow/#msiB8yT5dBSwXDYsE6FCvGSX7pziVQ4c

Then look at this pic

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/ant...japanese-whalers/story-e6frg12c-1225816667832

Those are not same sea conditions.

And K1W1, I grew up in the Caribbean so I don't think u need to be making assumptions about my knowledge of rough water no matter how much you love to argue. I have seen your other posts..
I am not the only one who noticed the difference in the water. No need to flame, it just makes people not want to post here.

geriksen's got a point.....

Geriksen,

This is the video I looked at and made my observations from, I agree there is some white water visible in the one you linked to

And for what it's worth I was not trying to flame you or anyone else. I made my statement having only seen the Japanese one now I have seen both I still do not consider what is shown in the video you linked to to be anything like very rough sea conditions.

Agreed, the point I was trying to make was not that there were extremely rough conditions, just that there was a big difference in the sea conditions from the video and the pic that looks like it had been taken right after the collision with the other boat still in the background. Doesn't look right to me.

There is one more thing that nobody has mentioned. Could the captain of the Japanese vessel even see the Ady Gil anymore once it had gotten so close and below the flare of it's bow?
It is possible that when the Japanese captain made his turn he did not even know where the Ady Gil was.... Too bad they didn't have a camera rolling on the bridge.

I agree with you there...I've seen a few images of the Ady Gil "right after the collision" with Source: Sea Shepherd on them, and none of them look right.

Just like this one...