| A&R | 67.9M | "AVIVA" | 2007 |

Perhaps not on Athena, but otherwise almost all smaller sailboats have this bow today. And it is coming up in sizes too; http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/wally-yacht/7207-project-pilgrim.html

Thanks - I really like Athena and wondered if a different bow might improve her performance, etc.. Used to be a Rag Sailer. Thanks again.

Bruce D

Thanks to all. I'll keep my eye peeled for new launches - somebody has got to try it on a big sailer in that it is of benefit to her sailing qualities.

Regards - Bruce D

How about Wally's Esense? She's big enough... 143 feet.
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This "style" (like all great styles) was born in racing for a purely utilitarian reasons... maximized LWL.

Thanks Kevin - wish we had some deck and interior info - its hard to beat the amenities on Aviva - I'm in heat for her. Tried following up on Wally Yacht's pilgrim project, but wasn't too successful - was I on the wrong thread?

Regards - BruceD:

This is a link to the Wally page on Pilgrim; http://www.*********/jumpCh.asp?idUser=0&idChannel=145&idLang=IT&idProd=89&attivo=4&txtStartRecord=1

Hi,

Yachtluver- When referring to the Abekings AVIVA it is just that not No III as you write repeatedly.

E IV has a conventional flared bow.

Hi,

To be correct Yachtluver, you are referring to a vessel name that does not exist on any registry to the best of my knowledge.

AMG - thanks - got it - wish the plans were a little bigger! Does Senior Member mean your old? If so, I'm a Senior Member too - can't see as well as I used to

KIWI - Who cares what she's called - she' s beautiful!!!!

BruceD

Thanks YachtLuver - Luv your Town & Island - Gud Rum Dere!

BruceD

YachtLuver and folks -- Any thoughts on why this not does not (apparently) use any kind of azipods? The idea of carrying the Shottel as a "3rd wheel" strikes me as an inefficient way to do something that could have been done with two "conventional" azipods. What am I missing? Do owners still worry about reliability/service availability of the pods?

Hi,

The Stern Thruster is not a "third wheel" it is a Pump Jet.

Azipods are suited to larger vessels and there are a lot of issues to be addressed when using them. The current crop of Abekings boats are pretty short of space in the back end and could not support the height inside or the mass of the Azipod hanging off the outside. There would also be a space issue for all the drive gear electrics and electronics to run an Azipod boat.

Just Aviva

This is the 3rd boat named Aviva by the owner. This one is just known as Aviva. I did help with the build and it is a beautiful yacht. I do know the owner name, but I will not post it. I can say that he is an American. Aviva is 73 meters long at a price tag above 75 Mil. There is 1 Mil in A/V equipment. She left A&R with a crew of 30 and is due back at the end of the season for 5 months of add ons. I also have interior pictures, but do not feel it right to post them.

If I'm not mistaken, K1W1, ABB offers Azipods as small as 400Kw. Is that not small enough?

Hi,

Yes Oceanlines they do offer 400 kW Units.

The series of boats we are talking about here would need 1.5 mW units.

I have been onboard Air and Kogo -two Azipod boats and was amazed at the amount of equipment that is needed to support the Azipods. This takes up a lot of space and is something that a lot of Owners are not prepared to sacrifice just for a drive system that is going to reduce their interior volume.