The Venus / Lady “Yellin” Moura incident

Ken
I did not mean to upset you, Just something bad happened, that may not of had to.

No offense taken. I've been a yacht captain for 30 years, and have run all manner and sizes of boats (although nothing above 70m), but I am pretty familiar with the business. Many captains on these large boats are good friends, and some are even former crew who still come to me for advice on occasion. I was simply stating that, even though I do have capability to start remotely, I would never-ever do so without the Chief's consent.

Again- no offense taken. I am pretty sure we will see an official statement in the coming days.

An engine that's just been run, no, not needed. cold start the engine? absolutely will extend the life of the engine by oil pressurizing the engine from the top down with lubricant before the start system rolls the pistons and bearing surfaces. Most medium and slow speed diesels have proprietary prelube timers integrated into the start circuits so as to not do damage dry starting

Lady Moura statement:

Lady Moura anchored in the Bay of Naples at a depth of 40 metres with seven shackles of chain deployed, which is the minimum required for safe anchoring under the given conditions. Several hours later, Venus arrived at the anchorage and seemingly misjudged the length of the chain that Lady Moura had in the water.
Subsequently, a violent squall with winds of 50-55 knots from an unexpected direction – different from the prevailing forecasts – caused the impact. Despite numerous efforts by Lady Moura's crew to alert the Venus’ crew by blowing the whistle and hailing on the radio, it appears that the bridge of the Venus was unmanned. Neither vessel dragged anchor.

Well, That's interesting.
Thx

I have been thinking about this all day.
The boats did not collide? Maybe short anchor scope on Lady Moura and that caused the causality?
I fear were still missing something here

I didn't report the last part of the statement...it then concluded that damages to both yachts were minimal and cosmetic and that the situation was "amicably and professionally" resolved.
That's all.

My bad.

Oh Stuff, I thought there was a big mess.

So, next silly question on this lil event;
You need big engines running to pay out more rode?

No you don't. From what I understand, it's Venus which could have used more chain out to avoid Lady Moura. But it seems the crew on Venus was unaware that any of this was taking place.

So Venus may be considered the cause of this but,,
If you se an issue, step out of the way even if it is not your fault.
Would dropping more rode help reduce the swapping of paint? Maybe taking some in and paying back out after the swing?
But then again, This could lead to anchor and rode getting fouled.
Oh well, Nuff of this.

The important thing; Nobody was hurt.

I'm just a yacht enthusiast and I don't know an inch of what you all know about yachts, but..in my view, if the dynamic position system had been activated, none of this would have occurred.

So...I think the real question is:

what's the point of installing systems like anchor watch alert, DP, Automatic Collision Avoidance System, etc and then not using them?

Hi thank you for you answer and explanation.

I know that Dynamic Position means the engines and thrusters must stay on but, I was thinking of the owner who spent the money to equip his yacht with these devices. What would I do if I were in his place knowing that I paid for them and my yacht is damaged because they were off? Wouldn't you furious? I would! I really would.

Speaking of the automated collision avoidance system, I was thinking about what happened to Utopia IV and Serene. I’ve been on a few yachts, 80+ metres, 100+ and 130+ and they all had this navigation support system that helps to prevent collisions with objects at sea. Some use thermal and colour cameras to detect floating objects by day as well as by night which neither the crew nor the radar or sonar system would be able to.

All these systems are available and installed in many yachts, but what's the point of having them if they are kept offline to save fuel or whatever reason?

Please post a link to any yacht / ship integrated or stand alone "collision avoidance" systems other than the standard ARPA, TSD or passive AIS. You mentioned integrated sonar, GPS and integrated radar type systems available and installed aboard vessels? I'd like to recommend one or more of these manufacturers systems next time up.

Sorry...did I upset you?
I'm not a native speaker, so sometimes I don't understand the tone of a message someone is using.
I didn't mention sonar, GPS etc, but a system based on thermal and colour cameras. As I explained, I was on board 3 yachts (I'm not gonna name them, but they are 80+, 100+ and 130+) and chatting with the owners or captains they showed me and the other guests that system.
We were simply commenting on some accidents that occurred to some yachts, and they said it couldn't happen to their yachts.
It's just a camera or two cameras mounted on the mast.
I found that fascinating because one of the captains told us that in the future the aim is to link the system to an AI system that can steer the yacht in case of non-action by the crew.
Fascinating but also scary to me. I don't know the name of any manufacturer because it's not my business, I was just enjoying my time on board.

Note to self: Don't have your boss post anything to social media that will cause social media to blow up and bring out all the Monday morning quarterbacks!!

Every time an accident happens, the amount of disinformation, speculation and people that just don't know what the F they are talking about is off the charts. Unfortunately I have seen professionals commenting without knowing the facts as well.

Look, sometimes **** happens to even the best of Captains, we try to mitigate this as much as we can with procedures, training and experience. At the end of the day accidents happen, I would rather use them as a learning episode once all the facts are known instead of speculating and spreading disinformation.

We can all do better.