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  1. RossC, Aug 6, 2023
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    So might be back on with United Marine Underwriters. I sent an email questioning the denial based on the performance of the vessel....for a vessel that can't break 30kts. Got a response saying that the email was sent in error and the survey has been submitted for approval. Also got a hard approval from BoatUS/Geico, but United is less money.
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    Gowrie Group may be able to find you additional choices.

    -Chris
  3. RossC, Aug 7, 2023
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    Insurance approved through United Marine Underwriters. Survey noted possible delamination in the stbd exhaust elbow and the insurance company has their panties in a bunch over it. They want me to replace it along with a half dozen other small issues like rusty hose clamps and fire extinguisher inspections. No idea where to go for the exhaust elbow. I guess any fire extinguisher guy can inspect and tag the automatic extinguisher in the engine room. Probably cheaper to just replace the 2 or 3 portable ones.
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  4. Pascal, Aug 7, 2023
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    Well rusty hose clamps may sound like details until they fail. Especially the cheap open band clamps and even more so if on some critical system like shaft seals

    same with the ER fixed fire system…. Getting it checked and certified every year isn’t expensive. If it’s been more than 5 years the bottle will need to be hydro tested.

    where is that exhaust elbow? Fiberglass? It it attached to the hull or is it between sections of hoses ?
  5. RossC, Aug 8, 2023
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    I know the hose clamps need replacing but it's a nickel and dime item. The plan is to have to fixed bottle dealt with in FL if I can schedule it in a few days we will be there before heading North. The elbow is near the engine. The raw water injects into the downstream low point in the elbow. There are shops that make them...or sell them. Just can't find one.
  6. Pascal, Aug 8, 2023
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    Where is the boat, FTL?

    Try these guys, they are probably the best when it comes to exhausts. If they can’t get it they can probably recommend someone

    https://deangelomarine.com/
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  7. Pascal, Aug 8, 2023
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    I ve PMd you the phone number for A&E Marine Exhaust. They just built new mixing cans and resealed the exhaust on the 110 I run. Did a good job.
  8. DOCKMASTER, Aug 8, 2023
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    x2 for Deangelo. Also, did you try Sea Ray? Might be a shelf item for them depending on how many model boats they used the same elbow for.

    Change as many of those hose clamps as you can before you make your long trip home. I've had more than one clamp break on me and create difficult situations in the past. I'm not a fan of the typical worm drive clamp as the bands are very weak from the the stamped holes. I prefer the Constant Torque clamps or the T-bolt style but you have to make sure to get the right size as they don't have a lot of adjustment range. And, of course, they are more expensive but I've never had one of these fail as long as they are good quality 316 stainless.
  9. Pascal, Aug 8, 2023
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    that’s why i mentioned the worm drive solid band clamps. Much more rust resistant taht holed clamps

    T clamps are great for exhaust and large hoses but not for anythjng under 1 1/5 to 2”
  10. DOCKMASTER, Aug 9, 2023
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    T clamps are great for exhaust and large hoses but not for anythjng under 1 1/5 to 2”[/QUOTE]

    Curious why you feel they are not for anything smaller?
  11. Pascal, Aug 9, 2023
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    I have never seen small ones used on smaller hoses or never seen them at any chandlery. And again the solid bank worm screws are probably just as good
  12. RossC, Aug 9, 2023
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    I have a fire company going on the boat tomorrow to inspect and tag the fire extinguishers. Signaling gear is all expired so will just purchase new. When I get to the boat I will inventory what she needs for hose clamps, find them locally and replace. That should take care of the insurance company's compliance list other than the exhaust elbow. Seems that most people are just repairing them vs replacing with new.
  13. Pascal, Aug 9, 2023
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    Check the running lights too. Usually if the flares are expired, the fire system not checked… the running lights will be dead as well :)
  14. RossC, Aug 9, 2023
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    Surveyor marked them as operational, but ill check anyway. Good idea.
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  15. gr8trn, Aug 10, 2023
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    Lights, horn or sounding device, windlass (have a winch handle handy if you need to drop and the fuse is blown so you can open the clutch). Besides the mains and transmission these are a few of my every trip check items.
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