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Summer in the Mediterranean tips: Schengen visa

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Pascal, Apr 3, 2023.

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  1. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    Very useful info. Thanks Ken!

    so crew flying into the Schengen zone to meet the boat would come in with their US passport and then once on board would get their passport stamped out at a port immigration office stopping the clock? But I guess this doesn’t prevent them from getting ashore etc.
  2. Ken Bracewell

    Ken Bracewell Senior Member

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    Where is your vessel ownership, Pascal. This just came to me

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  3. Ken Bracewell

    Ken Bracewell Senior Member

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    Yes, correct. I think there is technically a distance from vessel or area they must remain within.
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    Thanks again.

    Not accepting US flagged vessels homeported in Delaware is crazy. I wonder why that is. I m also wondering about the language used in this notice. Yachts registered and homeported in Delaware don’t “fly the Delaware flag” but the us flag

    No worry for us though as our homeport is FL.
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    There was a time when loads of tenders were registered in Delaware, and these are the people who will really be affected by this. Ours were registered DE under previous ownership, but we added them to our Cayman Islands official list of Tenders and Lifeboats.
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    Terrific thread.
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    I have been moving between France and Italy quite a bit with a UK flag. When in the ports, they only care about the dimensions of the boat, the insurance and that you pay the bill. The Italian Authorities never asked anything, however the French customs have, even when arriving in from another French port. This only happened in a couple of ports where they had never seen my boat before and their concern has been the country of residence of the owner (& captain in my case) and seems to be purely fiscal although they ask for the IDs of whoever is in the boat. If you don't live in the EU, you are not liable for tax in the EU, and your boat has an 18 months VAT waiver. You can register the boat with the EU customs of your choice (normally close to where you plan to stay moored) to allow peace of mind, and move around freely. After the 18 months, either you leave the EU waters (even if for one day I understand), come back and apply for another 18 months, or you pay the tax in any EU country. But I have never seen or heard of any requirements for mandatory border control procedure as such.
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    can you elaborate on the country of residence of the captain? I m considering renewing my long expired French passport but don’t want to get into an issue where I would have to prove I don’t live in France. Shouldn’t be too hard since I haven’t set foot there in 30 years but …

    also, between here and the Bahamas we don’t have to worry about anyone questioning ownership of the boat which is owned by an LLC. When in Europe, are there any document we should have on board like articles of incorporation or anything showing who owns the LLC. Seems like authorities like to dig a little deeper than here or the Bahamas
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    When asked by the French customs, you will have to show ID. You show whatever passport you have period. If they ask for some proof of residence, you show your driver's license, skipper license, whatever you have and that should be more than enough.

    Don't forget that if you don't live in France or any EU state, have no income there, you are not tax liable in any EU state regardless of your nationality (AFAIK).

    The boat may be subject to the VAT in the circumstances I pointed above.

    In what concerns the boat's ownership documentation, I always carry everything as required to show any authority, company notarised and apostiled documents so that there are no doubts.

    BTW, I am not a lawyer.
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    Wondering if they're going to handle documents in a different manner in those waters as they do in their territories here closer to home.
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    I always carry the Articles of Incorporation onboard. You should probably also preemptively have a Declaration of Ultimate Beneficial Ownership (or Certificate of Encumbency), as this has been a commonly requested document in Europe since the Russian Sanctions. Lastly, you should carry a notarized letter stating the Captain's Authority (in my case I have a Power of Attorney).
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    That’s what I was wondering. Not that a little 116 footer would be own by an oligarch but …

    Bahamian authorities don’t care much about that but I guess Europeans do. Thanks again Ken