Yacht Listings - No Crew Cabin Pics?

Broker like when they get phone calls, then they get a chance to speak to a person that is somewhat interested and may be able to "sell" them the boat.

If a boat usually doesn't have pictures of the crew quarter's, it's usually because the crews quarter's on the particular boat are so small that they are almost non-existent. European yachts typically have very small crew quarter's for their size in comparison to American built yachts

I'd have to agree with Capt J. More often than not the crews quarters pictures are missing because they would just turn a captain off who might be looking for his/her bosses next boat.

Your clients wouldn't happen to be interveiwing captains and crews would they?

"No Crew Cabin Pics??? "

Well, duh ... when crews start buying yachts, brokers will start showing pictures of crew quarters.

well marmot, for some guys it's more important to see crew quarters, because you'd not like to have a crew aboard, that is forced to live on 2qm with 3 persons...

image that for yourself...

Basic law of salesmenship: Never give a prospect anything that could elicit a "No" response. The boats are sold on their saloon and staterooms. Once sold it's the owner's problem of how to keep crew who will sleep aboard or shimmy through the engineroom. Of course a smart owner would say "let me see...", but that's all too rare. I don't think crew quarters or engine room pics will be shown anytime soon except when it's something the builder is proud of.

"... for some guys it's more important to see crew quarters..."

Yeah, about the same percentage as crew quarters pics in the brokerage brochures.

Hi,

Well put - NYCAP.

K1W1, what are you doing here so close to the magic hour?

Hi,

Marmot- The magic hour as you put it is more than 12 hrs past where I am sitting at the mo, I got side tracked cleaning up the garage and car port while getting out the portable BBQ on my way to the beach or I wouldn't be sitting here now

Ah so, didn't know you are on the other side of the world, well, let me wish you a belated Happy New Year anyway. Enjoy the barbie and best wishes!

Actually, crew quarters are important to a lot of owner/operators I've run across too, because they are looking for good dry storage. Or an occassional sleeping quarters for the grandkids.

Knowledgable owners will also always look at the crew quarters that I've worked for. If you look at all of the custom sportfishes and motoryachts (where owners could have crew quarters made any size they wish), the customs generally always have nice crew amenities.

New buyers and new yacht owners will generally not look or care what the crew quarters look like

The problem comes when they think that a grown man will live there. They then end up with a boat that doesn't leave the dock for lack of crew or worse, a captain desperate enough to live like that.

"Knowledgable owners will also always look at the crew quarters ..."

Sure, but pictures of crew quarters don't sell boats or charters. If they did there would be pictures of them on the brochures. Hotels don't show pictures of the laundry room or kitchen, airlines don't show pictures of the pilots' seats or baggage handler's lunch room. Cruise lines don't show pictures of the crew recreation room.

Crews don't buy or charter boats, when they do you will still not see pictures of crew quarters because it is not part of an owner's or charterer's experience. They don't show pictures of the dents and faded paint spots either, and the girl on the lounge chair doesn't always come with the boat. It really can't get much more simple than that.

now you're talking about charters - that's an other point - for sales it's important - i my eyes. in charter bussines there's no reason for a charter guest to ask for the crew room - as you said with the airlines etc.

but if i had a crew, it'd be important for me to see the crew area. my crew should't live like some "lower" folks, they're on duty all the time, so they should have some space too. would you like to live on a 50m yacht with three other people in a room? can't imagine that...

"... if i had a crew, it'd be important for me to see the crew area."

Good, but if crew quarters sold boats the designers would improve them, the builders would build them and the sales brochures would feature them.

All the good intentions and warm fuzzies in the world don't overcome the fact that there are no pictures of crew quarters because that is not what gets a prospective owner (or charterer) onboard to look around.

Poor crew quarters might kill a sale but even great ones won't get the buyer to make the phone call.

"... would you like to live on a 50m yacht with three other people in a room?"

Nope, won't do it. That is one of the reasons yacht crew tend to be backpackers and why we have such a hard time finding professional marine engineers.

Actually for charter boats their location, not necessarily their size is very important. You want them seperate from any guest staterooms if at all possible. You also want the crew to be able to function during a charter. Meaning, not interrupting the guests by having to lift the aft deck seat to get to the rear crew quarters while guests are drinking or eating on the aft deck wont work either. (Sunseeker and Azimut love to use this location for crew stateroom entrance/exit). Many charter yachts in the 90'+ range have a crew quarter entrance on the stern as to not effect anyone, anywhere else on the vessel. Or the Browards used to like to put crew in the bow behind the country kitchen and entrances to all guest staterooms aft of the galley in the salon. Feadships usually have crew walkways on the port side of the vessel seperate from all guests, so you can transfer food goods,liquor, and anything else to the different decks un-seen from guests without having to visibally walk past anywhere guests may see you.

Geez. I wish I had never written the word "charter." All charter boats were bought by someone, a buyer. Many if not most large boats are chartered so there really isn't much of a point of difference to be made. Some layouts make better charter boats than others but let's not make that into a red herring ... all boats are bought and sold and there are no crew quarter pics because that is not what attracts a potential buyer to make contact, regardless of the intended use.

I agree that the crew cabin is not a selling feature 95% of the time. However, it is obviously important to the person who initiated this thread.

The size of the crew cabin can be a deal breaker for a good percentage of buyers if it is the size of a broom closet. There are also a good percentage of buyers that would never think to even look at the crew quarters when they look at the boat.