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Turmoil vs Ulysses - which is the better explorer?

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by ESCONS, Oct 13, 2012.

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  1. ESCONS, Oct 13, 2012
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    Both yachts seem quite similar and comparable to me and look like the ultimate explorer yacht. I see many similarities including the following:

    Same year of build: 2006
    Similar length: Turmoil 63.7m, Ulysses 59.7m
    Guests/crew: Turmoil 16/14, Ulysses 16+3/9
    Similar asking price: Turmoil $50m, Ulysses $49m
    Both have long range and reinforced hulls with go anywhere capabilities

    Is it simply a case of Trinity Yachts vs Royal Denship? Which is the better yacht also keeping in mind asking price?

    All other considerations aside, personally I much prefer the interior of Ulysses, while Turmoil seems too utilitarian and seems to need a nice overhaul similar to the one Force Blue got when ownership changed. That means Turmoil could easily (my guess) need an additional $5m to update the interior...

    Look forward to your feedback :)
  2. K1W1, Oct 13, 2012
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    Hi,

    I know the key players involved in the build if both and have been on Ulysses a couple of times.

    If you have a client looking at both PM me a list of what you want to know and I will ask.
  3. ESCONS, Oct 14, 2012
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    Thank you K1W1,
    Actually this was just a thread which I started out of interest based on what I believe to be at face value similar yachts, with no potential buyer in mind :)
  4. AuDesigner, Jan 17, 2013
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    Denship Trinity

    Royal Denship do spectacular but generally unseen systems engineering and the quality and design of their structure /build is typically "Northern European" standard. Their interior design is understated and ultilitarian, while "Ulysses" is deliberately a one-of-a-kind show stopper interior (which Trinity could not get their heads around in those days ) - they do now.
  5. K1W1, Jan 17, 2013
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    Au designer,

    I would say straight away you have some bias.
  6. carelm, Jan 18, 2013
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    I took a look at both yacht descriptions at other websites and to my mind I prefer the Turmoil. Given the stated mission of an expedition yacht simpler is better IMHO and better systems engineering is a plus if you are in a remote area. I would be more concerned with reliability, ease of maintenance and range over a fancy interior that might not hold up well in adverse conditions (hot or cold).
  7. AuDesigner, Aug 21, 2017
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    Trinity Ulysses interior currently being removed and refit by Luca Dini Design. Details online.
    The spectacular H2Design interiors on the Kleven 106 "Ulysses" for sale should achieve much applause.
    I think the 117 Ulysses interior will be somewhat more punchy again.
    It wont be publicised until it is sold- but where does the owner go next after building such 2 shop stopper yachts?
    Very smart boat owners.
  8. AuDesigner, Aug 29, 2019
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    Correction ; The original interior was not removed and Grand Rusalina is now for sale and available for inspection at MYS2019