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  1. Riknpat, Feb 19, 2010
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    The SV Concordia a Canadian tall ship has sunk off the coast of Brazil near Santos. All 64 aboard made it into rafts and were rescued by nearby vessels coordinated by the Brazilian Navy. Weather was clear with strong winds and rising seas. Ship was 57.5 meters long, steel hulled and with 35 meter masts. Thank God all are safe.
  2. Kevin, Feb 19, 2010
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    Here's a LINK to the story.

    Glad to read everyone's safe.
  3. dennismc, Feb 19, 2010
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    I wonder is that a re-name of the other tall ship that sailed out of Newfoundland where the skipper was taken to task for the loss of life of a crew/passenger member ? that ship was a traing vessel also and had a major TV show cronicling it's travels.
  4. Riknpat, Feb 19, 2010
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    Doesn't seem to be. It was designed and built in 1992 for its current owners and doesn't seem to have been renamed. Home port is Barbados though the opeating company is out of Lunenburg Nova Scotia. It seems to have sailed 200,000 NM without serious incident (my source says) so one wonders what happened. Professional crew - rest are high school kids, mainly Canadian and American, some European.
  5. Kevin, Feb 19, 2010
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    There was an incident (can't remember the details) quite a few years ago. I did some digging but didn't come up with anything... but I remember it well enough since my brother attended WIC just a few years earlier. He graduated in 2000. I'll call him later today to see if he remembers anything.
  6. dennismc, Feb 19, 2010
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    The Picton Castle was the ship....
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    Not the same ship I would say.


    On or about the first of May, 2010 the sail training ship, the Barque Picton Castle and her crew will set sail on a monumental 14-month voyage bound around the world. Up to 36 people from all walks of life will be accepted to join this tall ship for this challenging once in a lifetime opportunity—truly the ultimate voyage. These crew will dedicate themselves to seafaring under square-sail and to learning all they can from the ship, the ocean, new found friends on far flung islands, each other and themselves.

    This voyage will take the ship and her crew over 30,000 blue-water, deep-sea miles circling the globe in fair winds and foul, pleasant trade-winds, calms and squalls. We will follow in the wake of great explorers and voyagers who came before us, sailing throughout the tropics, putting in at remote and storied ports of call. This voyage is expected to be the last world voyage of the Picton Castle under my command.

    Captain Daniel D. Moreland

    Dakar, Senegal
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    The Picton Castle is definitely a different ship. The people that pay to sail on board the Castle are not students.

    The death of Laura Gainey is probably what you're thinking of... that happened in 2006 I believe.
  9. JWY, Feb 20, 2010
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    Seems like good training, preparedness, cool heads, and efficient rescue vessels all allowed for a successful ending. With the only loss being the ship, congratulations are in order to all with lessons learned on how this turned into a story with a happy ending instead of a horrific tragedy.

    Judy
  10. Antonio Torres, Feb 23, 2010
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    White Squall - Albatross

    It looks like a similar school sailship sinking, the Albatross. Theres a good movie named " White Squall" based on Albatrss tragedy. I have seen that movie a few years ago and appreciated it.
    It seems that Canadian school ship Concordia was also victimized by a microbust, also called white squall.

    Some internet research got me the following informations, about Albatross:
    Besides the sudden strong down vertical winds (microburst or white squall), it seems that a refit project added too much weight aloft.
    In the case of Albatross, a major refit changed the rig from schooner to brigantine, adding more weight aloft. Also deck houses were added. The result was that critical angle of heel has decreased, and selg-righting capacity was compromised.