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Restriction plate between the thermostat housing and the head?

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  1. praetorian47, Aug 15, 2019
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    I cracked a head recently and my DD expert has never seen anything like this before. Is this normal? Do we need it or should it be removed?

    It's the second cracked head I've had on this engine.

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  2. Capt Ralph, Aug 15, 2019
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    Run your serial number for the part breakdown for your engine. Determine if this plate is in that part list.

    Does your other engine have this plate?

    What HP tune?
  3. praetorian47, Aug 15, 2019
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    750hp. I can't tell if the other has it without pulling things apart. It wouldn't be on the DD parts list. My DD expert buddy was a DD mechanic and ran service for Harper Detroit up here for years. He's spoken with other old experts and nobody ever heard of them used. Our plan is to keep them but remove them.
  4. Capt Ralph, Aug 15, 2019
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    Tell more about the crack; Between the valves or water jacket over the exhaust?
    Heat or fatigue issue?
    First replacement head was used?
  5. praetorian47, Aug 15, 2019
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    2 cracks on this one, between the valves.
    I believe it's a heat issue - but I'm certain it never exceeded 200 on the gauges. I've got a murphy gauge on that engine, so when I check that it was even lower (I've never seen that hit 180 - but that doesn't mean it doesn't, it just means that by the time I run down there, it's not).
    Last year I replaced the inboard (port side head) with a new one. The one I've got to replace the other is new also. They were moving parts from the old head to the new one when they saw this restrictor and can't figure out why it's there.
  6. Capt Ralph, Aug 15, 2019
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    Between the valves IMO is fatigue.
    Mostly 4 valve heads on 92s. I have witnessed it often.
    Early this year on a 53.
    Ship Happens.
  7. Capt Ralph, Aug 15, 2019
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    What config or model is your DD engine?
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  8. praetorian47, Aug 15, 2019
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    both heads, 1 last year, 1 this year? If that's the reason, I'm good with it, just don't want to ignore a potential bigger issues.
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    8v92
  10. Capt Ralph, Aug 15, 2019
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    It is a 92 head. Just making sure.
    At 750HP in a TA config,,
    Yep; fatigue..
    Not overheating.

    Your also J&T or SS?
    I'd leave that plate in then. Slows the coolant flow down just a bit, ensures the after-cooler gets max cool coolant from it's own HE.
  11. praetorian47, Aug 15, 2019
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    Thanks! so I should leave the restrictor plates in there?
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    Yep.
  13. Capt J, Aug 15, 2019
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    What EGT's are you running?
  14. boatpoor, Aug 15, 2019
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    Anything over 180 degrees on a Detroit and you're subject to cracked heads.
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    From experience or some readings in the cruisers nest?
  16. rtrafford, Aug 16, 2019
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    Yes, this. Keep em cool, folks.
  17. praetorian47, Aug 16, 2019
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    I don't have EGT - but I'll put it in when we replace the head!
  18. boatpoor, Aug 17, 2019
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    From experience. I can't start to count how many we've had to replace because of dirty or busted radiators on construction sites.
  19. Capt Ralph, Aug 17, 2019
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    I found an IPB on another web site. The plate is original.
    The picture I found is copy righted and can not be posted here.
    Yep, Keep the plate.
  20. Capt J, Aug 17, 2019
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    In that case make sure they see around 2350 RPM's WOT. High EGT's (overloaded) can cause cracked heads in that area over the long term with the 92 series.