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Questions About End-Tying

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by LuvBigBoats, Jul 27, 2022.

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  1. LuvBigBoats

    LuvBigBoats Member

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    Hey all--I've been on an end tie since Fall of last year. Just had one of my many Taylor Made Big B's spring a leak and they are replacing it, but it got me thinking about whether I'm doing this right.

    Been using the Big B's with the Taylor Made good covers. They wear very little on the gelcoat but they do wear some. Was thinking of getting bigger fenders, also with covers, and I've always thought Polyform were top notch. Thinking of getting the HTM-4s to replace the 10" Big B's (the HTM-4s are much larger). The Big B's came with the boat. Boat is a 62' Offshore.

    Questions:

    1. Am I going about this right, using the long cylindrical fenders as opposed to the ball style fenders? The dock is a floating dock, not very much above sea level, and the area I'm in does not see much rough water, but every now and then there's a storm that can cause havoc and also sometimes an a-hole will speed through the marina creating too large a wake. I'm a little concerned the ball style will end up on top of the dock in which case they are doing nothing.

    2. I typically try to keep the lines pretty snug so that the boat can't move too far away from the fenders. Maybe 6-12" or so from the fender. Would I be better off letting out more slack so that the boat isn't bumping against the fenders as often? I'm concerned that if I let out slack the boat can pick up more speed as it's moving away and toward the dock, which seems like a bad thing.

    Thanks
  2. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

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    It depends on how high above the water the floating dock is. If Polyballs will not float up over the dock when the boat rocks, I would prefer larger Polyballs.
  3. LuvBigBoats

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    Thanks, I'll measure next time I'm out but I don't think there's a lot of height there. What about the q re slack in the lines?
  4. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

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    I keep lines on a floating dock pretty tight with just a few inches of wiggle room. What causes more damage is momentum. If the lines are pretty tight you don't get the momentum going. You should have crossed spring lines and a bow and a stern line.
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  5. Slimshady

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    As far as fenders go it's a two pronged approach. Which type will stay in place and which type gives the largest surface area against the hull.
    Staying put has alot of variables, lower hull guard height vs floating dock fender height vs diameter of fender( cylinder or ball).
    Really only way to know is try them out.
    Surface area the cylinder will win hands down. The type of covering material and how clean it's kept will greatly affect gelcoat wear.
    We've switched to Aere fenders, great quality and built in south Florida.
  6. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    The 116 I run is on a Tee head but fixed. I have a big Polyball between the concrete and the boat about 30/40’ from the bow and an inflatable Aere fender with cover near the stern. So far both fenders are holding up pretty good. I tried a couple of big Taylor made early on but they popped leaks and with a month. made in China I guess …

    Both fenders are tied to the dock, the ball to a piling and the aft one tied to two cleats against a piling with another line holding it up. This way we don’t have to touch the fenders when leaving the dock

    90% of the time easterlies pin us on the dock. I have the lines pretty tight so that the boat can gain any momentum if pulling away and bouncing back on the fenders

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  7. DOCKMASTER

    DOCKMASTER Senior Member

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