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Pettit or Interlux Topside?

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  1. Boomer, Dec 17, 2020
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    Looking to paint the front of the house and toe rail. It was previously awlgripped or imroned but is shot...I am going to sand down and prime but was wondering what the best was for topside...I will be rolling and tipping with a brush.
  2. NYCAP123, Dec 17, 2020
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    DK about for the topsides but Interlux lost my business back in the '90s and I'd never go back. Their gray bottom paint faded to white within 2 months and left me with a carpet of barnacles within a year. Never heard anything bad about Pettit.
  3. Capt Ralph, Dec 18, 2020
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    Awgrip, Imron and other fancy polyurethane paints are difficult to just scratch and paint over.
    Are you sure it is a 2 part (awlgripped or imroned) paint finish?
    Can it be saved?

    Old rules;
    One part paint sticks to good one part paint.
    Two part paint sticks to good one part paint.
    Very rarely will one part paint stick to two part paint.
    You may be needing to epoxy prime over areas, then epoxy paint. What a job for the DIYer.

    I'm afraid you are going to need to lay some serious primer down first.
    But on a budget, try to de-gloss and try this paint on a small area and see how it holds up. You may (MAY) get lucky.

    I rolled and tipped an whole 28 Pearson with Pettit EZ-Poxy polyurethane topside Paint years ago.
    Lots of wet sanding and brushing thinner in the paint.
    Turned out darn good.

    Hopefully Ken may chime in with a better plan.

    Just tried to read over some YF tonight after a LOA.
    Sure enough, NY-Mouth had already chimed in on your post with his useless bottom paint B S.
    Still such useless diarrhea of his key board.
    Think I'll take another break.
  4. NYCAP123, Dec 18, 2020
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    Ah the cocktails have been consumed and the neighbors have had all they can stand of Ralphy Boy so let's get on the keyboard and insult the NY member and answer questions that haven't been asked while not answering the one that was, cause Ralphy Boy is an expert after painting the deck of a 28' boat. Hey I painted the deck of a 32' Silverton and I painted a pram when I was 9. Do I get a gold star? Let me break it down to simple words so even Ralphy Boy can understand while he's under the weather. The OP asked if Pettit or Interlux is better for painting the deck and front of the house.
  5. Boomer, Dec 19, 2020
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    Toe rail has been glassed over...you can see the glass underneath in some places...it is not gelcoat... the whole boat was painted 10 years ago...I plan on sanding it good, priming, and then 2 coating the finish product...unfortunately there is no way to save what is left...it is just plain gone in some areas
  6. NYCAP123, Dec 19, 2020
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    What's the condition of the rest of the boat? At 10 years you might be close to ready for a complete job. Might want to think ahead a year and maybe save yourself some work now that'll get redone then. Maybe just a quick touchup to keep it pretty till you're ready.
  7. Capt Ralph, Dec 20, 2020
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    And you responded with DK about for the topsides and some bottom paint dribble.
  8. NYCAP123, Dec 20, 2020
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    No I responded a view of the products from the companies he asked about based on my experience and an example of why. I could have wasted his time telling him about everything I ever painted or tried to teach him how to paint as you did, but that's not what he asked about. So go away and stop making a fool of yourself.
    P.S. Even though your answer was pompous nonsense it could have been delivered so easily without going out of your way to attack me. You seem to lack impulse control. Might be wise to look into that.
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  9. Capt Ralph, Dec 20, 2020
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    Sorry the thread was bent.
    I rediscovered my ignore option. I feel much better now.
    Next concern, is that glass and resin or glass and epoxy.
    My above one part / two part note still applies. Use a good primer, paint mfg recommended, over that fiberglass you are painting over.
    I am currently painting my fly bridge cowling and dash. I have filled holes and voids with epoxy. I still have to use a primer so my one part paint will stick to these little fills.
  10. Boomer, Dec 22, 2020
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    Rest of the house and top sides are in good condition...just the flat horizontal surfaces take one heck of a beating from the florida sun...it wont take much to sand down to the fiberglass cap over the toe rail...got my epoxy to fill in the gouges...just wanted to clean it up a little..the nasty toe rail drives me nuts....just got back in the water so ready for some painting after Christmas...new wheels made a big difference...picked up 8kts on my cruise to 22kts at 100 rpm less than before...now I am a little over propped as I could only get to 2300 full of fuel...guess I will take an inch off on the next haul out...always something to work on...Merry Christmas all!!
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  11. Capt Ralph, Dec 22, 2020
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    Yep, Have to use a primer over these. Best to use a good primer over all and not mess with it again for a long (hopefully) while.
    Picked up 8kts, WOW!!
    I remember you had commented that you felt slow. Was it a loss of diameter, just wrong pitch or wrong blade pattern?
  12. Boomer, Dec 22, 2020
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    previous wheels were 24x20 pitch w/ cup...moved up to 24x24 pitch w/ cup...previous cruise was 14kts at 1950...now 22.4kts at 1850...100 rpm less...both 4 bladed wheels...I know i am a little over propped as I can only achieve 2300rpm at 27kts but it will work for now...oddly, the hub is an inch shorter (length of hub) versus the old...went with nibral this time...a lot lighter wheel (weight) than the old ones were...pretty happy overall
  13. Capt Ralph, Dec 22, 2020
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    Outstanding report.
    I found just by tossing the mother-in-law over, you can get back quickly the missing RPM.
    Any dead weight on board your ship to toss? Maybe different trim angles?
  14. Boomer, Dec 22, 2020
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    Only weight we are going to remove is the washer/dryer combo...pretty much have all the dead weight stripped off now down to spare zincs even...trim tabs didnt do a whole lot like they did before...maybe get up on plane a second quicker but thats it...thinking weight of the new fiberglass swim platform changed the running attitude...once on plane, not much changes except actually slowing down as the tabs dig in