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  1. ERTW, Dec 9, 2008
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    I apologize first if this topic is out to lunch! I'm sure with all the knowledgeable members on this site, surely someone can point me in the right direction or offer there advice! I need to ship an 8' Diameter by 15' long tubular shaped piece of equipment about 10 tons in weight to Asia from Canada, I would like to ship via a container, yet most containers are just under 8' inside width. Do I look at shipping by "deck ship", and if so do shipping companies provide there own skids that I can load the equipment on and ship by truck to the nearest port?
  2. K1W1, Dec 9, 2008
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    Hi,

    Does this equipment have to be protected from the weather?

    You could get it mounted on a flat container which is the normal footprint of a 20' Box and maybe you will get hit to pay for two spaces if it is too wide to have another box next to it.

    The good news is freight rates are dropping a lot now so it won't be that expensive to pay for two boxes and only ship one slightly oversize one.
  3. ERTW, Dec 9, 2008
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    Good suggestion K1W1! Looks like a possibility, but the customer would like to have it enclosed from weather. Wondering if flat container with those roll tarps might be sufficient if the equipment is shrink wrapped also, just looking at some of the container types online.
  4. K1W1, Dec 9, 2008
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    Hi,

    As it is not as long as 20' Box you will have some space at each end to build some frame work that could support some light framework and a cover of some sort.

    It is going to have to go at the top of a stack so it won't really matter what cover you use as long as it is SECURE the wind on a long Ocean Voyage alone can flap and rip quite a bit.

    Talk to your freight forwarder and see if you can get it back stacked ( aft of the superstructure) so as to afford it some modicum of protection from wave action over the front.
  5. ERTW, Dec 9, 2008
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    I just talked to the designer and it turns out its actually 9' in Diameter, so I assume that we will be charged for 2 other containers as well. I'm assuming this is still cheaper then shipping on a deck of ship.
  6. Loren Schweizer, Dec 9, 2008
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    ERTW:

    Why not treat it as a boat, i.e., build a cradle for support and then shrinkwrap it for an ondeck crgo shipment.
  7. ERTW, Dec 10, 2008
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    Is there a big cost difference shipping say flat-rack and taking three container spots up versus deck cargo, I'm under the impression that deck cargo is alot more costly? I've got the company we use for shipping machinery looking into possible solutions also, but its really handy to have resources like this so that I can have a good picture of what is involved. Its very interesting the various logistics involved in shipping by sea once you start to research it.
  8. K1W1, Dec 10, 2008
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    Hi,

    I just passed some trucks that had large round cylinder type sections on their trailers, these would have been approx 9-10 feet in diameter and more like 30-35 feet long.

    They were supported by a frame at each end and had end plugs in the openings at each end. I could not see at the speed I was traveling at in the snow exactly what else was there but it looked like a good idea for transporting a big cylinder with open ends ( not sure if your thing is like this).

    Another thing to look at when transporting by sea is Insurance, maker sure you get Insurance that specifically covers the item you are shipping. There are many ways for Shippers, Stevedores and others to slip out of any financial responsibility for damaged and lost cargo.

    There is quite a bit about this at the website of a team of ambulance chasers called Countryman and McDaniel. http://www.cargolaw.com/
  9. Michael R., Dec 10, 2008
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    Depending upon where you are shipping to and from, the least expensive and safest way to accomplish this is to block and brace your cargo to a mafi-trailer and load it underdeck on a Ro/Ro vessel. No exposure to the elements and you are only paying for the weight and volume that you are displacing.

    There are a bunch of carriers that sail from the Far-East to North America, almost daily. Here are a few that I can recommend:

    http://www.hoegh.com/autoliners/
    http://www.2wglobal.com/www/wep/
    http://www.nykroro.com/

    You'll also need a freight forwarder on the other side, I'd recommend asking the steamship line for a few recommendations.

    Best regards,

    Michael Rettig