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"More than half of marine industry unemployed"

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by lwrandall, Apr 7, 2009.

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  1. lwrandall

    lwrandall senior member

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    It seems I am always posting depressing news about the boating industry.:( But, we must stay informed about what's happening around us. I promise, when I read something nice, happy and positive I will post that as well.

    Boating Industry
    Tuesday April 7, 2009


    CHICAGO, Ill. — The National Marine Manufacturers Association estimates that as of late March, marine industry unemployment was more than 50 percent, NMMA President Thom Dammrich told the Springfield Business Journal for an article published yesterday.

    Retail boat sales fell off precipitously in July 2008, Dammrich told the newspaper.
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    In the fourth-quarter of 2008, one in three NMMA members furloughed operations for a period of time, and one in 10 closed down a plant entirely, he added.

    "... the numbers I quote are anecdotal," he explained to Boating Industry in an e-mail interview this morning. "They’re an estimate based on feedback from our members and learning firsthand how the shift in the economy and consumers’ purchase habits are impacting our industry. Many manufacturers are changing how they do business to adapt to the new environment so they’re in a stronger position and can rehire staff when things turnaround."

    "What it comes down to is that, until the consumer starts feeling more confident about the future," he told the Journal, "they're holding off on some purchases."
  2. NYCAP123

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    Should be interesting to see how many are willing to go back into the business. On eastern Long Island mechanics and detailers have been hard to find for the last 2 years or so. This summer all I can say is 'Don't break down and get used to that dirty look'. DK any F/T captains. Since these jobs were seasonal to begin with I don't see anybody waiting around for the industry to recover nor giving up any F/T gig they happen to find in the mean time.
  3. Capt J

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    In South Florida it's kind of a good thing the marine industry has slowed down in some ways. A lot of the people in the marine industry that were crooks, took deposits and never did the work, did sub-par work, or ripped people off are getting weeded out and not able to find any work. The ones that do great work for a fair price are a bit slower, but have enough business to keep afloat and weather the storm. So down here it seems to be weeding out all of the people in the industry that were not good.......

    I've been busy, but not with as much higher paying work and a lot more lower paying work......washdowns, polishing S.S. versus mechanical work and deliveries.......

    I've also noticed the newer yacht owners getting in, don't have the morals and are as good of guys as the old owners have been....... they haggle with the price etc. etc.....
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    Loren Schweizer YF Associate Writer

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    i read that article, i'm not really sure what it means. I dont know if it is a version of chapter 11 or if its a nice loophole to be able to delay things for people to get their affairs in order. To me, the article reads as if they do not currently have the money to complete the yachts they have in build, so they are 're-financing' so they can get these projects finished.
  7. NYCAP123

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    Sounds like some owner/educating might be in order. I recently told my main client (who's opinion I greatly respect) that I was thinking about lowering my rate because of the economy. He strongly recommended against it (even though it would have saved him money). He pointed out that: 1) there will be fewer jobs available meaning workers without a following will have to leave the industry, but that owners remaining in yachting are the ones who are doing OK and they can afford to pay. 2) that there are only going to be X number of jobs to be had and lowering our rates won't increase the number of days we work. We'll just get less money for it. In fact it may have the opposite of the desired effect as we'll protray ourselves as cute-rate and therefore less desireable, and 3) if we lower our rate it will lag behind long after the economy recovers even as the cost of living continues to increase.
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    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    That's a pretty accurate description of Chapter 11.
  9. SeaEric

    SeaEric YF Historian

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    The half of me thats still working is doing the work of both halves. However, neither half is getting a pay check.
  10. NYCAP123

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    Work without a paycheck is play. Hope your having fun. A lot of us have already left this industry and a lot more won't be in this business a few months from now. My season is just starting. Every year I wonder if my phone will ring and it does. This year, we'll see. DK what else I'd do, but I don't do this for fun and I don't work for free.
  11. Seafarer

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    I wouldn't call it play, but I'm still trying to get paid for Jan & Feb's work. Also looking for new clients.