After talking to one of my marina neighbors I'm thinking about installing an inverter and upping my house battery count from 1 to 3 to run my AC units while under way. The AC units are on a seperate 30 amp circuit. I have a 2005 Carver Mariner that is setup with a seperate battery for each engine and getset as well as a 50 amp and 10 amp chargers (Charles). Has anyone done this? Any tips or things to avoid? What about different inverters? Thanks ahead of time
An inverter is one of the best accessories you can add to your boat BUT you're not going to run your aircons even under way. Air cons use a lot of power and once you do the math, you'll see that it will not work. FIgure you have two AC units on your boat (under 40', right?), so with the pump that's going to be around 25amps altogether. At 12 volts, that's going to be around 300amps which means that even if you have a 150 AMP alternator on each engine, it's only going to feed the ACs, and nothing else. Engines off, assuming a 50% on/off cycle, you're going to need about 125 Amp Hours... so.. your typical "marine" batteries will be dead in an hour. These are rough calculations but you get the idea. Running the genny to power Aircons is much better idea! now, if you want to add an inverter to power other things, like lights, TVs, fans, microwave, etc... while anchored out, then an inverter and extra batteries is a great idea. I added a 3kw inverter on my boat along with 8 golf cart batteries and my annual generator hours went from 1200 to 300. In other words, the whole thing paid for itself in a year of fuel savings. When adding an inverter, the entire system needs to be matched : Loads - Inverter - Batteries - Charger - Generator. In other words, there is not point in putting a big inverter to power large loads with too few batteries. Or there having a big battery bank will not work with a small charger or a small generator that can't power a large charger. usually, most marine inverters also include a high capacity charger so that's one fewer things to worry about. A typical 3000W inverter can usually charge batteries at about 150Amps. So if you're going to use 300 amps, it's goign to take 2 to 3 hours to recharge at night. Now, if you buy a cheap inverter only and rely on your 50 amp charger, it will take 6 to 7 hours to recharge... get the picture? if you're going to add an inverter and batteries, you need to add what you will power. usually in Watts, convert that to AMPS then AMP/HRS and see what you need.
Pascal Thanks alot! That's the kind of info I was wanting. I'm pretty good with electricity but failing at the amp/watt conversions at different voltages. My units are 6K and 12K BTU and I was thinking of running just the larger one. I can probably crowd 2 more marine batteries for the house but that's it. I have the check the rating of my alternators, quite frankly I'm only expecting around 90 amp each. I was really hoping to stay with the 50 amp charger but you made a really good point. It looks like there's a little more math needed here. BTW any pointers on sine wave vs modified or true sine inverters? Thanks again.
most larger inverters have built in chargers so the size of your existing charger is irrelevant. true sine is a little more expensive than modified and seem to become more popular. I have 4 year old Xantrex Freedom 30 which is modifed sine and it works fine. Some items (fluo lights, fans, microwave) are a little noisy on inverter but everything else has been fine so far. Some sensitive electronics (high end amplifiers) and tool chargers are some of the things known not to like MSW. Digital clocks dont' work either. i recently installed a Magnum 4000 on a boat i captain, it was about $500 more than the freedom 3000, worth it.