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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by MarcoSolo, Sep 20, 2013.

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  1. MarcoSolo

    MarcoSolo Guest

    Hi Everyone,

    Does anyone knows ice class hull yachts under GRT 500?

    Most of the expedition yachts are over 500 GRT.

    Thank you!!

    Marc
  2. Antonio Torres

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    Ice class < 500 tons

    Will this ice class boat fit your needs? It is under 500 tons and the design has been tested for hundreds of years.

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  3. karo1776

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    Moment built My Issue... With "ice class"
    It's Beluga now berthed in Monaco.
    Believe it is around 350 ton.
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    Only 15 GRT and don't think its "Ice Class", but still interesting

    Further design info at Idlewild

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  5. karo1776

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    Sorry up late and misspelled Moonen... getting old I suppose.

    Anyway, Moonen produced My Issue a 35m explorer ice classed type of around 350 ton. Its still berthed in Monaco but renamed Beluga...

    Also, Grace a 45m explorer ice classed type of around 450 ton (I would guess) was is around. Builder... some Friesland workboat yard... cannot remember. As a bonus has some special ice type propellors. Its based year round out of Norway...

    Both are for sale... don't know what that means... but that means you could find a picture on line of either, if you like.

    I don't think yachts are really ice breakers but just strengthened so not to dent too bad when plowing through an occasional ice flow... but it might knock off some faring filler. On that point I don't think Grace was faired. Why anyone would want to go to the frozen regions for relaxation and pleasure... darn stressful dangerous navigating it seems to me. Icebergs occasionally decide to capsize... and ice flows harbor lots of danger... and mistakes can be life threatening.
  6. Old Phart

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    Sorry, too funny.

    Do not have to worry about a malfunctioning icemaker.

    Want to experience that coooooold female feeling when she says, "Noooooo~ooo~ooah!"
  7. karo1776

    karo1776 Senior Member

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    It is funny.

    Anyway, I was wondering why someone would call a yacht Beluga... maybe after the whale, sturgeon or caviar... got to be the last!

    This whole arctic yacht thing does not interest me... but would some I have known...:

    Anyway, my Scottish grandfather, long time ago now, was a great hunter. He spent a lot of time in the Arctic too. I member pictures he had of him killing a beluga whale in the shallows with a spear/harpoon... blood everywhere... and pictures of it being cut up and eaten raw! He had the spear/harpoon thing in his den... along with lots of other interesting to kids stuff... like baby seal rugs and various stuffed big cats, horns / tusks. No polar bear... he had tried many times too dangerous condition and pushed back both on plane and sled tries.

    One of the most interesting was the pictures of him going out in pretty good chop with threatening skies in an ice flow in a skin boat with the indigenous people. And, the him spearing of all things a walrus. When it got tired enough or bleed out enough they pulled it next to the boat and he said he performed the coup de gras with a 45 cal. pistol. He said it was rather a wild ride until they got the thing killed. Another bloody mess... and they cut the stomach open and eat some kind of shell fish the walrus had pre-eaten... heavens.

    He had all kinds of interesting gear... one looked like a great big fishing lure on the end of a rawhide cord... really long cord. I guess it was used when you shot or whatever a seal to throw out to snag it and drag it into ice flow or shore where you were. That was hung above the door way to his fishing room off to the side. Remember him showing to some less adventurous friends one day and he reached up to knock it around with his fingers pointing it out... got excited telling the story and forgot when he pulled his hand down and ripped open his middle finger top to bottom to the bone. And, grandma got upset he got lots of blood on her cream colored wool carpeting on his way to the doc.

    I was really interested in all this... and accompanied him on a few hunting trips... which sort of cured me on that! Most of his photos are with an elderly uncle and I wish I could get them... lots of memories of his tales and pictures... He had one of a canvas quonset hut they used and it was full of snow... he told us kids it blew in through the keyhole in a storm... I questioned this as it seemed impossible as a seven year old! It was always a subject I would bring up and want to see the pictures of before and after trying to figure out if it was a tall tale or not. I think to shut me up on this he gave me a lever action 30-30 cal rifle... which then I wanted to shoot. But had to earn the money to by the cartridges and did after lots of odd jobs... kicked really hard and I was black and blue... which he got a great kick out too.
  8. nilo

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    as to my knowledge, ''beluga'' is not ice classed but has a strengthened hull.
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    To my opinion the best Ice-hull among super-yachts belongs to "SENSES".
    This true heavy-duty expedition yacht may serve as a sample for others.
    "Le Grand Bleu", BTW, was built as enlarged "Senses".
    In some aspects it resembles Ice-breackers' hulls form.
    At least such hull will not be smashed if frozen in ice - only squeezed-out.

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  10. Antonio Torres

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    Sail yachts designed for ice

    Considering that icebreakers have heavy displacement and are commercial or navy ships, when the subject is ice class yachts, the first yachts that cross my mind are the sailboats that have been designed for serious ice conditions, like Paratii and Paratii 2 (owned by Amir Klink), Seamaster (owned by the tragically murdered Peter Blake), Kotik (owned by Oleg Belly), just to mention some of them. Those ones have really proved that can take serious ice conditions for long periods, like the first Paratii (50ยด) that Amir Klink sailed to face the antarctic winter immobilized in ice.
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    Here are some pics, courtesy of MarineTraffic.

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    Foy Yachts has a ice class explorer project (46 meter) in their drawers which is under 500 GT. I don't know if the construction startet or just a marketing project at the moment. The design comes from the Dutch Azure Yacht Design company.
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    Not sure if I make the same connection.....

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    San Lorenzo 42 M Explorer. Very nice looks IMHO. 460 GRT.
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    I'd a given anything to sit down and drink a beer with your grandfather Karo, he sounds like a mans man for sure.