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  1. tirekicker11

    tirekicker11 Senior Member

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    Maybe a stupid question but do steel hulls have a hull-deck joint?
    Thanks for any advice.
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    Do you mean for welding an aluminium superstructure?
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    Yes, the main deck is normally a structural element and forms part of the "girder" that determines the longitudinal strength of the hull.

    The only deck I can think of that doesn't have a "hull-deck joint" is on some submarines. The deck is mounted so that compression of the hull at depth doesn't deform the deck and make the crew stumble and fall when they trip over bumps that weren't there earlier.
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    Thanks, I've got to write a survey check list for a steel hull and was wondering whether the hull deck joint should be regarded as a separate checkpoint or that it would be under the same topic as skin plate welds.
    I don't have much metal boat experience.

    Thanks for your input
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    Steel deck joint

    If a steel hull with Al. superstructure there is I believe a very expensive joining bar which allows the hull and superstructure to be welded together without the steel being in contact with the Aluminum, forget what it's called but a major piece of gear.
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    Before writing too much it might be worthwhile to spend some time with some IACS docs.
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    It is known as Triplate, Triclad and Datacouple
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    Thanks for the hint (and I will look into class surveys at a later point) but that might be beyond the scope of this homework assignment.

    The question is: " As a surveyor undertaking a survey on a steel hull prepare a checklist to prompt you on all of the possible defects you might find together with their location as a result of the material of construction."

    As this assignment question comes from the IIMS course Yacht and Small craft Surveying craft over 24 meter (and probaply submarines) don't apply.

    When writing such a checklist for a GRP boat the hull-deck joint would obviously be a separate item to check. Will the hull-deck joint of a steel hull fall in the categories 'skin plating/ frames' etc.

    Really appreciate your input as my metal boat experience is very limited.
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    Corrosion doesn't know what length boat it is devouring.

    Yes, the deck(s) are part of the vessel's "fabric." I strongly suggest you obtain IACS docs on the construction of steel vessels and read as much as you can about how they are surveyed. Little steel boats corrode and waste away in the same areas for pretty much the same reasons as the largest steel boats and they all flake and rot the same way..

    If you plan to survey steel boats you really can't learn too much.
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    Thanks Marmot. I will try to find these IACS docs. If you can recommend any books about this subject please let me know too.
    I do need to learn about steel vessels but here are almost no steel vessels around.
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    It's Detacouple in reference (I think) to the detonation created during the explosive welding process.
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