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How common is "crazing" and other defects?

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  1. Adopo, Oct 13, 2025
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    So we looked at a 58 Sirena in Maine and from afar it looked great, but as we got closer the sun hit it just right. Broker said that's no big deal can be fixed easily and its common. Is it? What is this? A hit from a piling? Mistake in layup? Is it common and an easy fix? I noticed some boats have a waviness or print through on their hulls as well, like the Outer Reef Trident 62.

    We looked at two of these. One with only 250 hours or so. That one had the floors replaced and still had a stain on the master headboard (cloth) due to blowing rain hitting the salon doors that were closed just right. Why don't they make doors that don't leak was my question.

    Am I being too particular? I did see the thread on the Sierna 58. Thoughts?

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  2. Adopo, Oct 13, 2025
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    I just tried to edit and review these pictures, have no idea why they look over sized, you have to tap on your phone or click with your mouse to see them as intended. I guess I need advice with this as well...lol.
  3. Adopo, Oct 13, 2025
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    This was interesting almost like a warping. It was hard and unmoving however. Windows were fixed.

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  4. Adopo, Oct 13, 2025
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    A few other things I would never do. I must be just way to particular according to the broker. Maybe he's right.

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  5. Ken Bracewell, Oct 13, 2025
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    Maybe he isn't particular enough. That being said, you may be looking for quality where it doesn't exist.
  6. Adopo, Oct 14, 2025
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    Agreed and agree, but the crazing surprised me...for this size and market production boats I guess I should stick to Fleming, OR, Nordhavn, Hampton, etc. I like the layout and open concept, but crazing is ok and common?
  7. Scallywag, Oct 19, 2025 at 9:25 AM
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    I do not see crazing. Crazing is areas of very fine superficial cracks in the gelcoat. If what you are referring to is the warping on the hull side on photo #3:

    Best case scenario: Someone did a LOUSY job fairing that hull. I doubt this is factory, most likely a crappy repair.
    Worst case scenario: Complete de-lamination is occurring.

    Run.
  8. Kapn, Oct 21, 2025 at 10:19 AM
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    Yes, build quality varies tremendously and while it might not be evident when ordering a new boat, it shows up in resale value. How many of those have been produced? Where is their service facilities? Could you go to their dealership and step aboard numerous other examples to get an idea of how the older ones hold up?

    Kind of like a non car guy comparing a 1970's Fiat to a Testarossa. He'll always argue that they are both Italian and have four wheels, right... For some people the Fiat gets the job done at their budget level and they can accept the shortcomings.
  9. YachtForums, Oct 21, 2025 at 10:55 AM
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    The pics you posted are upwards of 4000 pixels which is large enough for an interstate billboard. If you reduce your image sizes to 640 pixels or less, your pics will display correctly. I have reduced the pics in this thread.
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  10. rtrafford, Oct 21, 2025 at 12:41 PM
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    Threads like this....this is why I choose to run with quality and proven builders with tenure in their gallery of vessels. Then I renovate and update to add my own taste or preferences as well as my own experience to the engineering of upgrades. Not for everyone, but it works well for me.
  11. Pascal, Oct 21, 2025 at 1:47 PM
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    That’s not crazing, I believe it a called oil canning, isn’t it ?

    very common from a number of builders.