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  1. vicky

    vicky New Member

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    Hi
    Can somebody help me ? I try for 1 year to work in yacht industry without results .I am an maritime-port engineer ,motorman and fitter ,I was working 9 years as multi-purpouse (minimum safety crew) with deck training (deck watckeeping and steering ).
    I am 40 years old ,from Romania ,and I am an ex Master of Naval Forces with 17 years experience on the sea.
    Every help count...
  2. CaptTom

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    Vicky,
    Tell us where you were looking for a job the past year? Europe, US, Caribbean, etc. Also, how were you looking? Walking docks, network events, agencies, etc. offer a little more info and let's see who can help. But from my observations in the southeast US, jobs are fewer and fewer, many crew out looking for jobs as they are unemplyed, reports that many yachts sat in the Caribbean duringt he winter, yachts sitting more with little or no crew, etc. It's tough all over.
    Good luck.
  3. vicky

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    I try with all the crew agencies from internet , I post my personal details ,and I apply for the positions where my licence allow me. I was ,few months ago, in St. Marteen . I am not looking job into a particular area , I can relocate. Is true that I didn't try in Asia .
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    I hate to send you chasing shadows because that can get expensive, but people really do have to meet you. On the internet you're just one of the hundreds (at least) of applicants they hear from. They've got to feel your personality. St. Marteen was a good move. Did you make any contacts while there. Follow up with them even if just a personal note to say Hi. When you hit a port ask captains about getting a job there. When they say No ask if you can keep in touch and get an e-mail. Follow up thanking them for giving their time, then periodically follow up. You may get a different response next time you meet if your name is familiar to them. Good luck.
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    In St. Marteen I was with one of the Carnival Cruise Line ships ,I didn't have time enough to walk and to ask . I was on few crewing agencies ,most of them was very interested after they check my documents ,but the answer was : " You don't have yacht qualification (Y) ,and in this conditions you have chances only on private yachts. Obtain MCA licence and ..."
    For this reason I was thinghing to apply for a Letter of First Assesment ,but....it take a lot of time ...and is not very easy if you didn' work on UK vessels .to get references...
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    I remember all too well the frustration, as I entered the working world, of everybody asking for experience and all I could think was: "How do you get experience if nobody will give you a chance?". Some things never change. All I can say is keep plugging on. Before you know it people will be saying you have too much experience because they want to mold a new employee to their way and only pay starter wages.:( Wish I could offer something more than my first advice, except next trip to a yachting area it should be dedicated to getting your name out and making connections. Not as an aside to a cruise vacation.
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    Hi, This guy has posted a few times before he works or worked for Carnival he is not a passenger.
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    I probably should have been more direct. I understad that he has quals and from the sounds of it good ones and that he was working Carnival. What he seems to lack is connections in the yachting end of the business (and possibly some docs). The connections part is what I was addressing. Sorry if you got led off on a tangent there.
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    "" You don't have yacht qualification (Y) ,and in this conditions you have chances only on private yachts. Obtain MCA licence and ..."

    This has been addressed previously in response to one of your many posts, but you must have missed it ... If you have a Romanian certificate of competence you do not need an "MCA license." Since the majority of yachts on which you might find employment are Cayman flagged, your Romanian CoC is valid when endorsed by Cayman.

    Here is a link that will take you to the CISR and the information needed to apply for an endorsement. If you qualify and can obtain an endorsement you are then in a position to state that you have an STCW CoC with a Cayman endorsement to serve as xxxxx.

    http://www.cishipping.com/portal/page?_pageid=1307,1684629&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

    In keeping with my reputation for disdainful nitpicking ... continuing to ask the same question hoping to get an answer you like will not get you a job. Documenting your qualifications and certifications and knowing what the manning certificates require will take you much further. Go to the source, the flag state, to determine what certificates are required, and how they will evaluate the certification(s) you hold.
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    Good to hear that. Good luck and keep us posted on what they have to say then maybe someone here can give you some leads.
  12. vicky

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    Hi
    Finally I received the answer. Licenses for engineers of yachts are issued by each country where this industry exists (in Romania there are not), and certificates that I have can not replace any position. Only the engineers of the navy can handle engineer positions on yachts, the licenses being superior.
    I can shot only private yachts which are not used for commercial purposes , and where this qualifications are not requested.
  13. K1W1

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    Hi,

    VICKY- Someone has either given you some totally wrong info or you misunderstood what you were told.

    If you work on a Cayman Island Vessel you will need to have a Cayman Island Endorsement (CeC) of your Romainian Certificate of Competency.(CoC) This is a simple formality and requires a letter from the ship saying you are or will be employed and the payment of a fee (The last time I did mine it was around $150 US).

    The endorsement runs alongside the validity of your ticket so if your CoC is about to expire don't apply for a CeC till you have a new CoC.

    This comes off page 1 of the Cayman Site that MARMOT linked to above.

    Certificates of Competency and Cayman Endorsements

    Crew members of Cayman-registered vessels may hold any nationality or residency provided they are holders of Certificates of Competency issued by one of the STCW 1995 "white list" countries recognised by Cayman and for which, where appropriate, it issues Endorsements attesting to the recognition of such Certificates.


    White List

    The following countries are STCW 1995 “white list” countries recognised by Cayman.

    European Countries (27) Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Serbia and Montenegro, Spain, Sweden, and the UK.

    Non EU/EEA Countries (17) Australia, Canada, China (Hong Kong SAR), India, Iran, Jamaica, Malaysia, Myanmar, New Zealand, Pakistan, Philippines, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, Singapore, South Africa, Ukraine, and the USA.

    Applying for an Endorsement

    To apply for a CI Endorsement, complete the required form and send it preferably by courier to our Head Office in George Town. Clients may also send an e-mail to crew.compliance@cishipping.com to request advice and assistance. All supporting documents should be attached as required. A list of supporting documents that need to be submitted with the application is indicated in the application form. Nevertheless, here is a short-list of what one may need. Please note that not all documents are required for every application, as it is dependent upon the type of vessel one will be serving on.

    * Application pages 1 through 3 (pages must be an original; not a photocopy)
    * 2 Specimen Signatures (on page one)
    * Certified copy of Certificate of Competency and STCW Endorsement from the issuing maritime administration
    * Current Medical Fitness Certificate (within last 2 years; must be valid for at least another 3 months at the time of application)
    * 3 passport sized-photos (with applicant’s name on reverse side)
    * Record of Sea Service (copied from SDB or official document – curriculum vitae or resume will not be accepted as a documentary evidence of sea service)
    * Copy of Passport – consisting of photograph and particulars of holder (include signature page)
    * Global Maritime Distress Safety System or GMDSS Certificate and Endorsement by relevant maritime administration (Deck Officers)
    * Advanced Fire-fighting Certificate (not necessary if included in the certificate of competency)
    * Other certificates/endorsements that are applicable (i.e. tanker training, passenger ship training, etc.)

    Even though, we are doing our best to issue an Endorsement in the shortest possible time, it may take longer than 5 working days from the day an application has been received, depending on the work load in the Office. A period required for issuing our Endorsement will also depend whether all required supporting documents and the relevant fees have been included.

    Go Here: http://www.cishipping.com/portal/page?_pageid=1307,1684246&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

    Click on the link for Printable Form just below the bold letters saying Endorsement Application at the upper left hand corner of the page. This will open a pdf doc that you can print off. Print a couple of copies in case you make a mistake and need to re write some of it.