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German Sailing Yacht went down in 38' seas

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  1. K1W1

    K1W1 Senior Member

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    Hi,

    One has to question if the termites/worms on these wooden boats also invade the operators as well as the hull.

    Another wooden boat founders in some big seas, at least help was on hand and they had the ability to call for it, unlike the doomed souls in the Tasman Sea a couple of months ago.
  2. Norseman

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    True question: 500 years ago the builders and owners had no choice: Wood was the Carbon Fiber of the day and high tech: Today Wood is perfect for Artic Waters if you have seasoned builders working for free and no-worm maintenance contracts. :rolleyes:
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    It would seem the question is less "wood boat " than those that choose to sail or power in bad weather are likely risk takers in regards to rigging, pumps, hatches, drogues, weather knowledge and modern weather advisory systems.

    At least their distress calling system was up to snuff so a properly prepared vessel could venture into the same weather and save them.

    Think Yogi when saying wood is bad. No hull material can compensate for poor judgement.
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    Hi,

    You must have information that no one else does if you think Yogis demise was associated with its hull material.

    I will take a well found steel boat in heavy weather any day over any other material.
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    Hi,

    As the vessel in question was not always in the Nthn Climes it is safe to assume it has been in worm infested waters since its construction in Greece 45 yrs ago.

    From the article you initially linked to:

    Tall ship Falado von Rhodos, MMSI 211289060, overall length 23 meters, breadth 4.8 meters, draught 2.6 meters, Rigging: brigantine, built 1968 Rhodos, Greece, flag Germany.
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    I guess my meaning was not clear - i'll try again. Boats that are not made of wood sink too, due to poor judgement. Yogi was one.
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    Hi,

    Would you care to elaborate on why poor judgement caused Yogi to sink?
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    I can only but refer you to the Yogi threads on this forum, believing as I do that many bright and experienced guys commented for about 15 pages as to whys and why nots leading up to the sinking and subsequent Euro press and legal hashes.
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    Hi,

    As the actual cause if known was seriously disguised in the very long delayed report there is no definitive answer as to the actual foundering, it is in my opinion most likely a number of small issues in themselves that multiplied into a large one which the onboard team could not deal with for various reasons which can be labelled as a combination of incompetence, lack of training and experience by any observer of the "report" who understands the operation of a large vessel in any conditions let alone when there is a bit of a sea running which is when most things seem to happen during the hours of darkness in my experience.
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    Many things caused a non-wood Yogi to sink. Poor judgment was most of the many reasons (SFBs).
    However, in this thread, the criticism was on wood boats sinking, "then Yogi (not wood) sank". Trying to say, even non-wood boats sink.