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  1. sagharborskip

    sagharborskip Senior Member

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    Have a potential delivery from here to BVI coming up and was looking for some help w/ trip planning...

    Boat holds 1000 gallons and comfortably cruises at 27 kts while burning 60 gph. Figure a 25% reserve that gives a 325 nm range...

    Weather/seas being favorable, is it reasonable to consider the following route?

    Florida to Highbourne Cay, 225 nm, 8.5 hours
    Highbourne to Clarence Town, Long Cay, 145 nm, 5.6 hours
    Long Cay to Turtle Cove, Providenciales, 195 nm, 7.5 hours
    Turtle Cove to Ocean World, DR, 180 nm, 7 hours
    Ocean World to San Juan, PR, 275 nm, 10.5 hours
    San Juan to BVI, 90 nm, 3.5 hours

    Any tips re: Clarence Town, Turtle Cove and Ocean World would be greatly appreciated.

    Any alternative suggestions, also!

    Thanks!
  2. Capt Bill11

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    That all might be do-able if the weather is absolutely perfect. But this time of year I wouldn't expect you could run at 27 kts everyday all day. And it's been blowing pretty good at times down in the islands so far this year. So you could get stuck in Provo, the DR or even in PR waiting for a weather window to head East.

    I would stop for fuel in Nassau just because the price of fuel would be the cheapest you'll find before going on down through the Bahamas. And I always try to call a head to any out island marina in the Bahamas I'm planning to stop at for fuel to make sure they will have fuel when I get there.

    If you stop in Provo be aware that if the seas are running out of the North you may not be able to get into Turtle Cove. If so you'll have to come into the back side of the island to fuel up. There are a couple of marinas you can get fuel at on the South side.

    Also be careful at Ocean World because again if the seas are running out of the North it can be dangerously rolling in the marina itself. If weather becomes an issue or you have another problem after leaving OW, Samana is a good place to stop before continuing East.

    When you jump from DR to PR look for a good weather window to cross the Mona Passage. Once across the Mona, depending on the weather, it can sometimes be a better ride going on the South side of Puerto Rico. If that is the case, I would suggest stopping in Ponce at the yacht club there to fuel up. They have very good prices.

    And if there is not a rush to get the boat there you could save the owner a fair bit of money by slowing down and burning less fuel per hour.

    Do you happen to need any crew? I've done this trip a number of times.
  3. sagharborskip

    sagharborskip Senior Member

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    Roger, thanks!

    Exactly what I'm looking for, thanks. I'll definitely call ahead anywhere I'd wind up for fuel availability (Highbourne, Long Cay).

    I lived in the BVI for 10+ years and am pretty familiar w/ how windy it can be this time of year...hopefully the Christmas Winds will limit themselves to Christmas! Not my experience, though

    Depending on whether trades are north of east or south of east would dictate running south of Puerto Rico - I'd rather deal w/ north swell than wind waves any day...we'll see.

    Not looking for crew on this trip, sorry! There'll be 3 of us, possibly 4.
  4. sagharborskip

    sagharborskip Senior Member

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    A question for you though, is what would be best approach to the Caicos Marina on the South side of Providenciales?
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    I've done the trip several times and those were my stops as well. Honestly though, I'd skip Provo altogether as it's a PITA to clear, you can't even fuel or leave the fuel dock until customs clears you although they're fairly quick usually. Getting through Seller's cut is another risk. It's a shame Nikki Beach burned down as it was an easy and risk free in and out.

    I'd go straight from Long Island to Ocean World, if you have the weather. I think it's about a 280nm hike if memory serves me right, but double check the milage.
  6. sagharborskip

    sagharborskip Senior Member

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    @Capt J-

    How is Ocean World to get in/out of in a north swell? Capt Bill mentioned Samana, which is another 90 nm east and protected from the north - any thoughts?

    Just considering different options. Trying to pace it so I don't have to take on a fuel bladder and deal w/ that.
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    It depends on how big the swells are. I would imagine it wouldn't be pretty with 10' Northern swells, but I doubt you'd be heading there in that anyways. I've been in and out of there with several boats and the last one was a 105' that drew 7ft on a light Northern Swell 3-4' about 2 years ago and there were no issues. We did have enough depth but did stir up some silt around the fuel dock area. I'd call them. It can get a little bit of a surge in there (but not any worse than the southern end of Miami Beach Marina), but again I've never been in and out of there with a heavy Northern swell.
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    @CaptJ-

    Awesome, thanks for that...

    FYI, Clarence Town, Long Cay to Ocean World is 335 nm...I'd probably throttle back for a bit, go overnight, and pick it up again the following day to ensure getting there on 1,000 gallons...or just stick w/ plan to pull into Caicos Marina or Turtle Cove depending swell/weather, etc.

    Once to Ocean World, another longish leg to either San Juan, Puerto Del Rey, or Ponce depending weather.
  9. Capt J

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    Yeah it's been a while since I charter Clarence Town to Ocean World. That might be right because I was running a SF that cruised at 35 knots and was considering running there in a day but chose Provo instead because it was rougher and I couldn't maintain anywhere close to 35knots. More like 24-28 knots the entire trip. I don't mind the night-time crawl as long as you have enough crew to switch out and it's deep water, it's easier than doing the fueling, wash/chamois, tie up, shorepower, untie, fenders routine at the end of the day every single day. Not to mention the owner appreciates the cheaper fuel bill. However it's no fun at all if it's rough seas at night.

    I've found the best time to hit the Mona Passage is daybreak, it seems to be the calmest. If you leave Ocean World right before sunset, and do 8 knots through the night you hit the Mona Passage right at daybreak and then run at cruise all of the way to San Juan.
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    Totally agree on running over night...

    Many trips NY/FL that allow overnights - easier on the boat at slow cruise, easier on pocketbook, easier to keep watch, etc. At an easygoing 10 kts you still wind up with a 240nm day without all the hassles of docking/undocking as you mentioned.

    Ever stop Matthew town/Great Inagua?
  11. Capt J

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    No, never been to Great Inagua.

    I once took a 75' Hatteras MY straight from Ft. laud to Beaufort, NC at 10 knots and only ran it at cruise for 30 mins every 6 hours. It took us 2 1/2 days (crew of 4), but it was easy, and in 550NM we burned less than 750 gallons. We then burned the same amount of fuel the very next day to run from Beaufort to Coinjock at cruise all day.......and like 150nm or less.....
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    I run an 82' Jefferson with 2000 series MTUs back and forth to NY...

    At its 18 knot cruise it burns over 120 gph. At 9-10 knots it burns 20.

    At current fuel prices, the savings to the owner is around $24,000. And that's even after adding an extra watch capable crew member and dallying a bit here/there while waiting for weather (I'd rather wait out the weather than go buoy to bout in ICW).
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    That 75' Hatteras MY (old style) was VERY similar. It burned 90GPH to cruise at 16.5-17 knots and 12GPH to cruise at 10 knots or just under......I did 5300NM (The Great Loop) with it using 7500 gallons......that included about 35-40 days of anchoring overnight on the generator.......
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    I stopped Matthew Town in 1991 on our 70 ft en route to Vancouver BC, small harbor entrance, was a wreck just outside, partially submerged, concrete dock, all the locals were lined up, thought we were the mail boat, small town, some groceries very friendly people, did not try for fuel as we were ok to Jamaica.
    I think back then fuel would have been a delivery situation.