| Feadship | 94.00M | "VIVA" ex. Hull 817 | 2021 |

Maritna_ra · Mar 5, 2021

A nice yacht, she has a lot of features.
The only thing I don't like about Feadship is that its yachts are too narrow...I would say, ridiculously narrow!
I know that is because they have to navigate 50km of bridges, locks and aqueducts but...c'mon they have brand new facilities in Makkum and Amsterdam so...use them!
Look at the 3 windows of the bridge deck...it looks..horrible.

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Yacht News · Mar 5, 2021

Yes, they are constrained by the narrow waterways and other obstacles they need to traverse. However, as you said, there is the new Amsterdam yard which isn't constrained as far as I know and they can build proper width yachts there. They would build some long yachts and then you wonder why the GT doesn't quite match the length.

Maritna_ra · Mar 5, 2021

Yes, both in Makkum and Amsterdam, there are big dry docks.
If I'm not wrong, in Makkum there are two giant halls that have dry docks of 110 and 120 metres respectively, while in Amsterdam the dock is 160x26m.
So I really don't understand why to keep building yachts over 80m at the old facilities?

Yacht News · Mar 5, 2021

Let's do some comparisons of Feadships that are similar in length with a few yachts from other builders of similar length. "Viva" is 94 X 13.6, "ZEN" is 88 X 13, "Musashi" and "Fountainhead" 88 X 14, "Lonian" 87 X 13.8, "Ecstasea" 86M X 11.5, "Lady S" 93M X 14.1.
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Oceanco: "Barbara" 88.5M X 14.5, "DAR" 90.1 X 14.2, "Nirvana" 88.5 X 14.2, "Infinity" 88.5 X 14.2, "DreAMBoat" 90 X 14.2

Lurssen: "ICE" 90.1 X 15, "Phoenix2" 90 X 14, "ACE" 87 X 14.5, "AVANTAGE" 87 X 13.8 , "Lady Lara" 91 X 14.8

Nobiskrug: "Tatoosh" 92 X 14.9

So we see here in these few examples that on average many of Feadship's yachts are on average half to a full meter slimmer than yachts of similar length built by their competitors. Again, there are no major constraints for the other yards.

Maritna_ra · Mar 5, 2021

I can understand, but talking about beam...on a yacht 0.5 m or 1m is quite relevant.
It means a lot of space, GT...so it changes completely the perception, the look and the proportions of the yacht.
I saw Carinthia VII (97.2 x 15,95), Madame Gu (99 x 14.85) ,Symphony (101.5 x 14.1), Mayan Queen (93.25 x 15.88), Palladium (95.15 x 16.22), Ecstasea (86 x 11,5) and Ice (90.1 x 15) in the same harbor, side by side...
I can tell you..even half a metre make a huge difference.
Carinthia VII, Mayan Queen and Palladium were impressive. I personally love Carinthia VII and Symphony...they were side by side and...there was no point, from the stern Symphony is too small

German Yachting · Mar 5, 2021

Well, not really. You still have to consider that they are two separate companies so Van Lent can do Kaag and Amsterdam and De Vries has Aalsmeer and Makuum. Depending who they contract with will dictate which yards are available. One thing to note on this build is that it could be wider but it is more slender for the hydrodynamic efficiencies.

Maritna_ra · Mar 5, 2021

mmhm I don't fully agree. Talking about efficiency there are a lot of variables to take into account.
It's like cars...for example, a MB S-Class has a cx of 0.22, the C-Class 0.24, so it's smaller but not more aerodynamically efficient.
The same thing can happen to a big yacht compared to a smaller one. Here the big problem is the superstructure, is literally a wall in the wind! But you can manage the airflow with some design solutions, generating some vortex to minimise the drag. It's not just the performance of the hull.