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Engine Monitoring Service

Discussion in 'Technical Discussion' started by kmb1949, Jul 27, 2014.

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  1. kmb1949

    kmb1949 New Member

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    As a boat owner, what would you like to see offered in an engine monitoring or boat monitoring service and what would you be willing to pay monthly for the service?

    I see a lot of post about engine issues. If someone provided a service that would diagnose just about any engine problem, would that be of interest to you?
  2. K1W1

    K1W1 Senior Member

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    Hi,

    Most main stream engine suppliers also provide a monitoring package as well if you take that option.

    3rd Party ones tend to be a good way for the engine builder to blame the control/monitoring system and vice versa.
  3. Capt J

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    I think if you simply follow the manufacturers maintanence schedule, they're all pretty well laid out by both hours, fuel burn, or time (years), it's really not that hard to follow it.
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    K1W1 Senior Member

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    The OP is asking about monitoring and fault diagnosis not long term maintenance.

    Not much point changing the oil if there is a rod hanging out the side that had been returning high metal in the SOS for months and the engine had been vibrating a lot more than normal is there now?
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    Marmot Senior Member

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    Oh boy, I could write a really long response to this one ...

    The technology exists, it has for years and has been used to great benefit by many commercial operators.

    Where it benefits those operators is the data goes directly to a person in the operator's office who is knowledgeable enough to interpret the data and has the authority to act on it with the full cooperation of the master and chief engineer onboard.

    Owners or operators of the small yachts that might gain some benefit cannot or will not pay for the service and are very unlikely to have anyone on the receiving end who can interpret the data. Sending it to a 3rd party adds costs. If that party is also the maintenance provider, that relationship might create a conflict of interest.

    The master and Chief on large yachts that almost certainly could benefit by remote monitoring may resent the "intrusion" and see 3rd party and management oversight as reducing their own authority.

    If a manufacturer required remote monitoring with the authority to schedule maintenance as a condition of warranty I suspect the monitoring equipment would be prone to frequent failures.
  6. kmb1949

    kmb1949 New Member

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    Monitoring

    The problem that I have found with most monitoring services is, they don't monitor enough data points to diagnose most engine problems.
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    K1W1 Senior Member

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    Hi,

    I would say the biggest problem is those who get the data don't know how to interpret what they are seeing.

    Too much automation has led to a bunch of button pushing telephone engineers throughout the yacht industry.
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    Some of the engine manufacturers have rather extensive offerings. MTU has standard systems like their Bluevision and further integrated systems like their Callosum system. Caterpillar has gplink.