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Economic Climate of Yachting This Summer

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by CaptTom, Jul 19, 2009.

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  1. CaptTom

    CaptTom Senior Member

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    Looking to get a feel for how the economy has/is impacting the yachting industry for the summer of 2009. We have all heard of designers and builders folding, yards laying off, and others downsizing for the first time in their existence.
    What's happening on the water as you cruise. Less yachts in ports? More yachts sitting at a destination and not exploring or runing out for the sunset cocktail party?
    Also, with a presumed lesser number of yachts doing their thing, are slips easier to come by, and/or less of a "greasing of the palm" being required?
    Then again, I know some captains that are keeping very busy this year.
    So chime in and give a thought or two.
  2. NYCAP123

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    Up in this area most of the independent captains are working other jobs and captaining on their days off. I'm lucky enough to be keeping fairly busy, but , where in previous years my summer would be mostly booked by January, this year it's mostly calls just a few days in advance. In May I had to get a summer slip for a 50 footer. Normally I'd expect to be laughed at. Instead I was given my choice of 3. I'm seeing a fair number of under 30' boats on the water, but few 30'-60'. The large yachts in Sag Harbor seem to be staying put or cruising local more.
  3. RER

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    Marine industry jobs on the west coast are disappearing faster than anyone can keep track. That's manufacturing, sales, service, crew, you name it. And I don't think we've hit bottom yet. The 40' to 60' boat owners checkbook is closed. And closed tightly. They're cash ain't flowing. However I think the under 40' boat traffic is up. Last summer fuel was $5.15 gal, it's currently $2.45 ...A day on the water in a smaller boat is reasonable again. Might as well use it if you can't sell it.
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    I would say here in Annapolis that the big boat traffic has been busier than normal in June. The Yacht basin was pretty much full for big boats thru 4th of July. The difference I am seeing is in the smaller 30-60' transient groups. The slips for them never seem to be sold out, their traffic is a bit off. Most of the local big boats are business as usual.
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    From what I've seen, the big boats don't seem to be leaving the dock quite as much and the cruising seems more local although I don't spend my time keeping track of them. What are others seeing and how about the charter yachts?
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    here in so fl, things are very busy on the water, more than last year probably thanks to lower fuel prices. Popular sandbars or anchorages seem to be even more crowded, although it could be due to people staying closer and not going to the keys or bahamas as much.

    that said, there seem to be more space available at marinas, although summer is not transient season.

    Over the winter, i was really surprised to see how dead bimini was. empty marinas, few boats anchored.

    In may, when i headed north with the 70 footer I captain, I thought that there was less traffic on the ICW, the Ches, and LIS. Nantucket and Newport felt pretty quiet around memorial day, which is obviously early in the season.

    I'm flying back north next monday, will be spending a couple of weeks between Nantucket, Newport, Mystic and Shelter.
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    I just drove by Rybovich this morning. There were only a handful of boats in the yard for work and most of the slips in the marina were vacant. Of course, summer is when boats sail.

    I was in Lauderdale for the July 4th weekend. Cruised by Sunrise Harbor, Bahia Mar, Pier 66 and the Grande. The usual assortment of big boats were present (by summertime standards), but traffic on the waterway was way-off. Very few boats cruising the intracoastal. And I counted no more than 70 boats offshore to watch fireworks.

    However, boating along the intracoastal in Palm Beach is bustling. Center-consoles rule and on any given weekend, you'll see 100's of them. Peanut Island remains a popular destination, as well as the sandbars in Jupiter, Tequesta and on up into Stuart.

    Sea Ray had one of their Aqua-Palooza events in Lake Boca this past weekend. I heard the turnout was good, but I didn't attend. Overall, small boat traffic has increased noticeably over last year, which seems directly attributable to gas prices.
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    Considering that 30' to 60' is where the big sales and big money is, and center console owners tend to hang onto their boats much longer than cruisers I'd say the summer is shaping up just about as expected. It's a good time to be in a different business. The only rub is finding anywhere money is being made.
    Although the large yacht market is still doing fair I have to wonder where they will be in say 5 years with workers in every area of the field leaving. This recession is going to have some long term effects.
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    The Hudson River has been extraordinarily quiet through the highlands. Am thinking of using an old laptop to host an AIS receiving station, but there really isn't enough traffic to make it anything other than a vanity project.
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    I'm south of Annapolis, Deale, and see the about the same here. Although I think we do have a lot more people using their boats than last year when fuel was over $4.00 a gallon. I was out with a friend today and he hadn't taken the boat out at all last year, he has had it out several times this year including a week cruise north with his wife. We are planning one for over Columbus day week-end and have been out about every other week end this year, but if I didn't own the boat I won't buy one in this climate.
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    From Sag Harbor, NY, we're OK. But here the destination is everything as the Hamptons are all within minutes of Sag and Sag itself is probably one of the best boating towns in the Northeast as far as being able to walk off the boat and enjoy yourself.

    As such, all the marinas in Sag had waiting lists and all of them raised their prices this summer. Transients can look forward to the $5.50/ft/night rate, up from $5.25 last summer.

    There has been a steady stream of big boats through and only an occasional empty slip as boats make jaunts out and about.

    The moorings outside the breakwater are never full as they're more exposed to the weather, but there have been several larger boats anchored out pretty much full time.

    I just brought a boat out from Brewer's Capri in Port Washington and they seemed full as well.

    Newport was bustling last weekend with constant boat traffic to/from the docks and lots and lots of people out in the bay sailing/motoring around.