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  1. Codger

    Codger YF Wisdom Dept.

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    Undersea comm fibre apparently being damaged by ships anchors.
    Just wondering if it's normal practice to check charts prior to dropping a hook?
    I don't even want to try and figure out what the potential liability tag would be for this sort of event if an individual vessel was shown to be responsible.



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7222536.stm
  2. AMG

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    With a GPS this would be easy to avoid, but when I was looking into some of my charts, I didn´t find any international cables? Could they be considered a security issue and not charted? I once caught a military cable when dragging, of course not charted.
  3. Codger

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    Thanks AMG. I remember seeing charts that were looked at very closely when a semi submersible rig was being moved and there were comm cables marked out. Perhaps the charts were not standard issue.
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    Cool site, I just passed it along to a few friends!
    Thank you.
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    I had a questioned that I had wondered for a long time but had been unable to find the answer. I tried checking out that web site but still did not find the answer.
    I once was told that there is an underwater fuel pipe line running into Ft. Luaderdale to Port Everglades coming from the west end of Freeport Bahama island. I have always seen large tankers unloading fuel there at a long xtended dock out in the ocean. The story went that they built the pipe line so the tankers do not have to enter port everglades. I have looked on charts to see if anything was marked but did not see anything.
    Does any one know any thing about this?
  7. Loren Schweizer

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    Back in 2004, a company called Enron won approval for a proposal to lay a natural gas pipeline from Grand Bahama to Port Everglades to tie into the existing gas line in Broward County (FLL).
    As there were environmental concerns, I don't believe it went anywhere.

    Just another pipedream.
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    5 cables cut and counting,...

    ...., and this time not the result of a ship's anchor cutting the cable:
    http://www.arabianbusiness.com/510132-internet-problems-continue-with-fourth-cable-break?ln=en
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/threatchaos/?p=525
    Fifth:
    http://www.albawaba.com/en/countries/UAE/221875
    Excerpt.../"A total of five cables being operated by two submarine cable operators have been damaged with a fault in each. These are SeaMeWe-4 (South East Asia-Middle East-Western Europe-4) near Penang, Malaysia, the FLAG Europe-Asia near Alexandria, FLAG near the Dubai coast, FALCON near Bandar Abbas in Iran and SeaMeWe-4, also near Alexandria. © 2008 Mena Report (www.menareport.com):eek: "​

    Apparently not an anchor originally either:
    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4244474&page=1
    http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hTi5wNwTD66nvWdTAQw20SaFI_GQ
    http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/02/06/stories/2008020651700400.htm
    To quote Churchill,
    "Once is accident.
    Twice is coincidence.
    Thrice is enemy action."
    No worries/repairman on the way:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7228315.stm
    Now who was it who shot down a weather satellite about this time last year?
    http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/01/18/china.missile/index.html
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/01/18/mcintyre.satellite.missile.test.affl

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  9. Codger

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    Hmmm. Not a ship's anchor. No seismic activity noted in the area.
    The Loch Ness Lobster did it. And who said that regular flossing was such a good idea?
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    I don't think it that part of the world it would have been the Loch Ness Monster more likely Scylla or Charybdis.
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  12. Codger

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    Jeez! Talk about a speculative whirlwind. Hopefully when the repairs are made the cause will be determined.
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    Whatever the reason, I am happy that the spam flood has decreased by 90 percent lately...;)
  14. Codger

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    Just checked and same here. Pleasant benefit.
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  16. Codger

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    My bet is on the SkilSawFish.:D