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Crash In Newport

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  1. Captcruz

    Captcruz New Member

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    Story is on Dockwalk. happened Yesterday.
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  2. Ken Bracewell

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    It actually happened about 5:30 Monday evening. The website you're referring to should be ashamed to call itself a "news" provider after posting such conjecture.
    I didn't witness what happened, but it is pretty clear that it wasn't the smoothest of landings.
  3. SeaEric

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    Heh. Ken, You're the king of understatement.
  4. Capt Bill11

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    So it wasn't due to mechanical failure?
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    Since I wasn't there, I couldn't say. I just find it appalling that a for-profit "news" paper would post something questioning the captain's abilities.
  6. Captcruz

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    Newport Shipyard confirmed the 145-foot M/Y Espresso III and 130-foot M/Y Arioso were involved in a collision yesterday at the shipyard.

    Other sources report that allegedly M/Y Espresso III lost power yesterday, had a mechanical malfunction while docking and collided with the 130-foot Westport. Apparently no one was hurt, but both yachts suffered substantial damage. More information to come.


    I don't think there is anything wrong with Dockwalk's above report. They simply are saying it was a mechanical malfunction. The accident was a terrible thing to happen for all involved. There's nothing more to read into it. Don't confuse what you may be reading on the Dockwalk forum from crew people, from what Dockwalk stated", Unless you have other information?

    Cheers,
  7. Capt Bill11

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    I read it as mechanical failure of some kind and not the captains fault. Doesn't read as deflamitory to me Ken.
  8. Pascal

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    i think the concern is not with DW original report on their forum, but what a second posted added, speculating about the captain having had a previous mecahnical failure a few years back... i dont' think that poster was a DW employee though.
  9. Ken Bracewell

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    I think she may be. Look at her other posts throughout.
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    Ah, the Kelly girl. She is apparently clueless and I didn't think she was an employee of Dockwalk either.

    But I could be wrong on that. If I am, then I see Ken's point.
  11. CaptTom

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    I just read Kelly's comments. She states that the information is from a reliable source, but it had yet to be confirmed. Well, if not confirmed, then don't say anything. You're just adding to the rumor mill, and it's not needed.
    Second, she just about named the captain when she detailed the last episode of mechanical failure. From that info, I deducted who the captain is, and I have known this captain for a number of years. What she doesn't tell you is that this captain has basically cruised the many corners of the world, has been doing it for a long time and is very experienced. He had "another" mechanical failure, but based on the number of sea miles under his keel, that should equate to a very low "mechanical failure to miles" ratio. Hey, it happens.
    And if it was his fault, then the authorities will take the proper steps to "charge" him with it and leverage any punishment. Insurance should cover the damage, less deductible. Why do we try to judge and hang people who have been in a situation before the facts are in? Are we adding to the hype that surrounds us? I thought that was the media's job.
    Kelly, you should report on the accident, and when you have the facts, report on them. Please don't add to the rumors, otherwise this captain may be guilty until proven innocent.
    Hey come on, it's basically a fender bender.
  12. K1W1

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    Hi,

    So let me see if I understand this correctly.

    It is the Captain who is having mechanical failures so it should be him or her that is going in for repairs not the boat? :D
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    I have known the Capt. of Espresso III for a number of years. He is a very experienced Capt. and a good guy, who has had the bad luck to have some mechanical failures that did not turn out very well. If you drive a boat long enough s**t is going to happen. The real measure of Capt. is how he performs when the s**t hits the the fan.
    In today's digital world everything that happens is immediatly put to the net, and that's when the innuendo's, conjecture and arm chair Capt. come out of the woodwork.
    I hope when my turn comes that my peers respect me and look at my 20 year record and not the one moment in time!!
    As for the one's that couldn't run a boat in a bath tub, f**k You!!
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    Amen brother!
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    Hi,

    Good One, Some one who knows the guy getting all the flack who ain't afraid to stick up for him.

    By the way-Would that Bath Tub be moored alongside or Stern too?
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    By a friend of mine that is in the Newport yard told me the word there is that a deckhand accidentally put the boat in gear after they docked.
  17. Ken Bracewell

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    That certainly didn't happen. I say this because it was obvious that they weren't tied to the dock when the damage occurred (my Bosun watched it from across the harbor and we were there talking to "eye-witnesses" shortly thereafter). The boat bow was about 8' away from their side of the slip (with the piling between them and their side) and there was no sign of damage to the cleats where the spring lines were tied.
    Anyhow, enough speculation. There are rumors flying all around Newport and surrounding areas. I've been out to the islands since Tuesday morning and have heard about it from numerous sources.