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Collision at Sea

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by T.K., Dec 18, 2008.

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  1. T.K.

    T.K. Senior Member

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    Are you trying to mow my grass? :D I'm the gun slinger of boat videos! :D
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    Ok so which boat had the right-of-way? My vote would be the bigger boat because of less maneuverability. Normally it's the boat to starboard but not in this case I don't think.

    There's a youtube video of a Coast Guard boat coming up on a little outboard boat's port side. The guys in the outboard boat were looking at another boat and the CG boat just ran right over them. Luckily the guys weren't badly injured.
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    There is no regulation that says big boats have the right to plow under small boats(although by the end of summer I sometimes wish there were:rolleyes: ). That said, BOTH boats are at fault, but the one to starboard appears to have right of way from the little information shown.
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    Hi,

    No I agree, but there is regulation that provides for large vessels that are restricted in their ability to maneuver usually by sandbanks, rocks, draft to not comply with the "normal" give way rule.
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    Absolutely. That's why I added "from the little information shown". It appears to be an open sea area with good visability. Personally I wouldn't want to be either captain explaining that one to the boss or the CG.
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    but there is the "might is right" rule ... eh?

    :D

    ooo-arr ...
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    it takes two to tango... hmmm collide... so both boats are at fault here for not avoiding a collision (and failure to use signals, both passing and then danger), however the boat from which the video is taken was the give way vessel there, no doubt about it. size isnt' an issue...

    "there is regulation that provides for large vessels that are restricted in their ability to maneuver usually by sandbanks, rocks, draft to not comply with the "normal" give way rule."

    and which rule is that? "Restricted in their ability to maneuver" status can ONLY be claimed due the nature of the work a boat is engaged in... nothing else. sandbars, draft? that woudl be Constrained by Draft, i doubt either qualify for that status...

    mixing up RAM with other things like narrow channel only creates confusion.

    This doesn't seem to be a narrow channel or fairway, so rule 9 doens't apply either...

    and about that well known video about the coast guard boat ramming a smaller outboard, in all fairness to the USCG it was NOT a USCG vessel, but an Auxiliary boat...
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    When I first saw this video, I watched it a few times over because it appeared that the wake of the smaller boat indicated that it had just made a sharp turn to port.

    Maybe I'm seeing things.
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    I see the port turn too. Looks like the little boat was trying to pass in front of the yacht but chickened out at the last second and tried to pass on the yachts stbd side. Looks like a very avoidable accident. But the thing that caught my eye was the person on the bow of the little boat. You can see him or her run away after the boats come apart. :eek:

    Dan
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    Rule 8
    (c) If there is sufficient sea room, alteration in course alone may be the most effective action to avoid a close-quarters situation provided that it is made in good time, is substantial and does not result in another close quarters situation.
    (F) (iii) A vessel the passage of which is not impeded remains fully obliged to comply with the rules of this part when the two vessels are approaching one another so as to involve risk of collision.
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    That's an old one. Been around the net a long time. I think I read (maybe on YF) that occurred in the Red Sea.

    I never have gotten any details on it though. Anybody know if there were injuries? I looks like the pulpit crashed right into the bridge of the smaller vessel. I'd hate to see that coming at me if I were at the helm!!

    It appears the Yacht (where the camera was mounted) is either stopped or maybe even reversed as the smaller boat didn't seem to be pushed away in the collision as would be the case if there were forward momentum on the larger yacht.

    What was the outcome? Anybody cited or license in jeopardy?
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    It does appear to be in the Red Sea, note the Egyptian flag, and the vessel with the camera appears to be moving forward based on the water moving by , the fact that is looks like the smaller vessel would have passed clear if the camera vessel wasn't moving forward and how the smaller vessel is pushed aside on impact.

    There is no prop wash towards the bow so it also does not appear to be in reverse at any time.
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    If you look at the propwash from 0:32-0:34 it looks like the smaller boat turned towards the larger one.