China marine board new yacht build rules and regs

No national rules. Rules vary per province.
I don't think there are 'classification' regulations with regards to a pleasure vessel anywhere in China and in most provinces they won't understand the concept 'pleasure craft' so you will have to comply with the regulations of commercial vessels.
For sure there are many different licensing and local registration regulations.
I know of one person who had a boat build near Shanghai and needed to sail it down to Hong Kong; he needed a different licensed captain on each leg of the trip as he went in and out of separate regulated waters.

In general it is a lot less hassle to license your boat in Hong Kong and enter China as a visiting yacht.

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When I want to leave the port here in Xiamen with a pleasure vessel they look strange as I'm a foreigner.

All Chinese have hardly an idea how to drive a car so not even talk about a running a yacht...so they hire captains....also looks fancy and better for other people around regarding safety.

Only when I go out I need to promise to custom officer who let you to the jetty, that I come back one time and show my passport, otherwise I need to go to customs buro and get visa stamp.

When you want to stay away longer in Chinese coastal waters just tell them what you go to do.

They salut and wish you happy times.

Nobody simply know what is going on and what are the rules. For Chinese it is of course more strict as they do not want Chinese to travel in and out just like that.

Rules to building? They have no bloody idea. Of course the builders want to sell so they comply with all regulations you ask for.

Hi,

You could ask a few of the organizations linked to here.


http://hongkong.angloinfo.com/information/36/sailing.asp

Nope.
When you want to enter HK with a foreign vessel the vessel can stay in HK water for a maximum of 6 months, the crew can stay for a lenght according to their entry visa's (2 weeks to 90 days depending on nationality)
When you want to cruise HK waters you'll need a cruising permit.

When you want to skipper a HK licensed boat you need the HK captains license. (Grade 2 for up to 15 meter pleasure craft, Grade 1 for unlimited lenght pleasure craft)
RYA offshore tickets are not recognised here.

There is no boatbuilding left in HK but you can license any boat here, no safety or class requirements providing it's a non commercial vessel.
To license a charter yacht you'll need to be signed of by a recognised surveyor but again requirements are minimal.

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Great huh?

Some will say that all rules are great...I say rules are only to protect the stupid.

That's why life here is great.

And all clever people know how to protect them selves...

No need to be "protected" by politicians who only think about their own wallets.

Nice new topic?

There are no regulations for craft under 24 meter in the EU too as far as I know.
The system regarding skipper licensing here is retarded.
My Offshore ticket is not recognised so I had to spend 6 evenings in a classroom and pass 2 Chinglish multi question exams. No I am allowed to drive pleasure craft of unlimited lenght and power. It's the world upside down.

On the other hand I believe that in the USA there are no skipper tickets required at all.

Hi,

If you haven't done an advance fire fighting course yet, I would do one ASAP as that comment is likely to get the Flame Throwers out of the deck lockers and into action quicker than anything.

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I'm only 6 years out of Holland so not so sure anymore. but,

Over 15 meters and/or over 20 KM/h possible boat you need to have license to ride it. That is one.

Second: when you even want to use radio channels need to have a license for that as well.

In case you're Dutch and want to go out on Eu waters your papers must be recognised over all EU so ask extra permissions.

In case you want to go out to international waters (sea) I don't know anymore. I forget as is 20 years ago when I did this license in useless class. Just only pay and not any practise exams. Just a joke.

With this paper I thought in China would be good to have it.....uuuuuuuhhhhhhh What's that? You have papers to use a pleasure vessel? Huuuuhhhhh is that needed? We thought when you have a boat like that you can afford a captain with all papers....Hum and now you use it self...?

Don't make it too complicated please...

I said: "I believe"

Are captains tickets required by law for non commercial vessels below 24 meter in the USA?
I'm pretty sure the 2 cigarette drivers that nearly capsized me with their wake in the Lower Bay hadn't received any decent training.

Sorry Willight

There are no regulations for craft under 24 meter in the EU too as far as I know
Here I was referring to MCA regulations relating to the vessel, not the licensing of captains.

I know Holland still requires this insane radio license. You can't buy a VHF in Holland without having passed an exam.

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Dear Tirekicker,

When you mean for construction/sales side then it is even not allowed anymore to sell a dingy without CE certificates and numbers.

But the fine part I'm not into it. What I know that if you as top private builder made small vessel with all love and dedication it is impossible to sell it as the buyer not get it insured.

But the so called HISWA approved shait mass production company can make whatever he want and it is OK as long as you pay that useless institution HISWA. Is that what we talk about?

These would only make sense for when the vessel was used in China. For export it is not of their concern.
Don't forget present day China is only 50 years old and has been closed for a good 40 of them. Pleasure boating is in it's infancy. It is going to take decades before yards are seriously going to sell to Chinese customers.

So how would I get my Dutch homebuild steel Bruce Roberts licensed then?

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Here I do have small other experience.

Chinese government is promoting like hell the yachting industry.

With each good motivated plan you come the local governments jump on you to build yards and companies whatever you want.

I can choose 3 cities to start a yard with huge factory with all you can imagine....

But now explain them that that is not the issue....the business, brand, name, experience and and and is the story...
Not just a bloody production place and money.

So now regarding to this....Chinese government is on top of this as with many other things.

Just a matter of time and all regulations are introduced from one to the other day like with all other issues they have here.

Not like in other countries....talk for years and then agree that in 500 years the new regulation will be valid to give people time to adjust...nope....

here is simple...is good idea....??? OK then from next mont we do. Basta! Deal with it!

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You know better then I do.

But what about asking for surveying by CE company and pay their stupid fees for nothing?

I think a purchase check before buying should be enough.

Already enough companies in the world "checking" all regulations....or lets call it keeping them selves alive.

Do you mean that the Gov is promoting yacht sales in China or yacht build in China and export overseas.

Yes they do understand that they have the infrastructure for boatbuilding and that the knowledge has to be sourced outside but I would be carefull investing my ill gotten earnings in a long term plan in a country with a government like China.
Remember the visa issues during the Olympics. The German director of the Bosch factury in Guangdong wasn't allowed to enter for 3 months...