Cape Horn: The best there ever was?

Yes, Cape Horn were not bad and I don´t know the situation now, there was talk of a new builder but maybe it never happened.

Building a small trawler is not that difficult, I have seen several designs and there are builders. I recently made this design for a Turkish shipyard.

will she be a one off or a series built? if not confidential can you disclose the name of the yard?

nice lines and i am excited to have a look at the interior layout.

The idea is to have a semi custom series in a few sizes, but I must talk to the builder before I reveal more.

Hi,

Don't be surprised if the original poster who has been such a promoter of this obscure yacht to date is suddenly the one to have one for sale with a different user name and IP Addy ( Mods take note)

We are never surprised, but this thread was a great opportunity for me and Eric to show our trawlers...

AMG.... not to take anything from your design, it's quite impressive. But I have to say the Moloka'i Strait is quite the passagemaker. Surely on my short list of "want one"!

The Seaton Yacht "Expedition Seventy" seem to be another nice design. Like the Nordhavns though, it's FRP construction too if I'm correct. My question would be regarding durability of the hulls as well as maintenance issues between steel and FRP construction. Not to mention initial price difference to purchase.

Regarding "Jasra" and his "humble opinion" stating or asking.... "Cape Horn: The best there ever was?" Well.... guess we're all entitled to an opinion! But it sure seems to be "leading" somewhere doesn't it! Not to mention what's available now may just overshadow what used to be considered "the best".

Real Ships is another one that seems to be a well built passagemaker also. Their web site is still incomplete though..... but I'd certainly like to see a review on one of their builds too.

Oh well, just trying to keep the conversation going......

As I said, there are some nice designs out there. Mine was not meant to be just one of them, but a little more modern. It has been a few various stages before we decided on one style as you can see here:

Kiwi: thanks for being sharp, per usual.

Jasra: your profile says you're a ship broker. Only nice to disclose that. If you're listing one, it belongs under the Yachts For Sale category. And yes, you can still buy a Cape Horn, either a brokerage vessel or a new build.

There were 5 Cape Horns built with Z-drives; the other dozen or so were not and were still great boats - it was not the Z-drive that made them great, that was only an enhancement and was optional. The combination of hull design, safety features, and commercial applications dressed up were all part of the builder's philosophy.

Judy Waldman
YACHT BROKER

iaa don't like the first one - the profile doesn't has charm...

the second one is better, but as a trawler the last is my favourite

Curious to the "top-heavy" look of the trawler on the picture:

Although the lines are nice in a way, it looks like the house is too big for the boat.

Perhaps it is the angle of the photo or my un-trained eye, but she looks a bit out of proportion.

I can understand the desire to get as much interior space as possible out of these yachts so the owners can "entertain", but this one seems a bit over the top so to speak, and the rugged trawler/tug kind of look turns silly instead.

Understood and duly noted.

So the yacht in the picture is a custom design to owner's spec?

BTW, the twin funnel design looks really good.

Here is another of Eric's designs that is currently for sale in Fort Lauderdale.

Well, you wrote the headline of this thread? Maybe you would be interested to read this as well: http://www.**************/jwyachts/jwyachts_8.html

I was in touch with Cape Horn during the construction of "Lords Warrior" and must say that I was worried about building such a top heavy boat, but it turned out to manage bad weather pretty well. The aft engine room was unusual and gave a lot of interior space, a nice liveaboard yacht.

But building steel trawlers is not rocket science and installing Thrustmaster drives can be done by any builder if you like.

Jasra, you were saying that Thrustmaster is the best drive system and asked for other trawler manufacturers, didn´t you? Eric gave you one. I said there are many builders that can build one for you, with or without Thrustmaster. What Judy said that could upset you I don´t know, but if you already have all the answers to your questions, have a nice day yourself.

Hi,

JASRA- You might want to call your Wet Nurse and have her repair the rips in your nightie, maybe she can pick up the toys you have thrown out of the pram as well.

Your first post was a well worded and full promotional one for these Trawlers, your profile says you are a ship broker. I put two and two together.

You might want to read up a bit DP II also needs full redundancy.

Audits are what they are be they ISM or other ones they are all manageable by a well found well run vessel.

You might find a number of yachts advertised with DP Capability but you will not find many classed as DP to any level.

Diesel Electric will do the same as your hydraulic drive, have less chance of a spill causing pollution and every genset onboard can be output to the same task so you have a good level of redundancy built in especially if you match multiple smaller gensets to the load you will get the best efficiency out of your engine package.

There are more switchboards etc and there are cooling issues with Electric Drives but there are also Oil Cooling Issues with Hydraulics.

If you bother to read some of the info posted here by some of the members you will see that most are consumate professionals who tend to be polite to others most of the time.

Then again there are a few like you who come in and get wound up like a line around the prop over assumed slights. You might have trouble finding many of them though because for one reason or another they don't seem to hang around for too long.

If you want to come to this website and poo poo things people post in response to your thinly veiled sales pitch maybe you would get a better response at E Bay.