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Can Battery isolator kill 4 batts at once?

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  1. rnburns81532

    rnburns81532 New Member

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    I have a battery isolator about 10 years old that controls 4 -12V DC batts on my Trojan boat. Is it possible that if it fails or malfunctions that it could drain all 4 batts over night when the Batt. charger was not being used?
    I can't understand how 4 separate and not parralled batts all fail at once unless it is the isolator at fault. It is the only item the batts have in common.
    Can anyone please enlighten me? Thank you very much!
    Bob burns, Port Wing, WI on Lk. Superior
  2. Capt J

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    If the isolator shorts out, I could imagine that it could happen. Or possibly the isolator went bad, and one battery of the 4 has a short and it allowed the juice from the other batteries to backflow from the good batteries
  3. jhall767

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    It's possible but not likely. What type of isolator? Transistor or mechanical? What do you mean by "Killed"? Did the all end up at the same voltage? Totally dead or just low? Did they recharge when the battery charger was reconnected? It's been my experience that dead batteries are more often the result of an ongoing problem with the charging system. Usually they haven't been getting completely charged for a while and it wasn't noticed until they were actually dead.
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    Hi,

    If they are good old Lead Acid type and the charger has been used full time it it possible that they have sulphated plates and they rely on the electrolyte to give an indication of condition= with little or no real reserve capacity.

    If one is looking distorted I would agree with CaptJ that the other three fed the duffer till it **** the bed.
  5. Capt Fred

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    Solid State, diode type, isolators are very reliable unless current above their rated capacity was drawn. The isolator can be checked with a cheap digital volt meter like the red one at Harbor Freight with the diode check circuit. Put the volt meter on the diode symbol, flip it on and check for a reading in each direction from battery input to output of the isolator with the boat batteries disconnected. The forward reading should be 300 or less and the reverse reading should be off the scale. Do this for all four inputs. If they are burned out they should read low values 300 or less in both direction or really high valves in both directions, greater than 1000. Remember the isolator circuit has to be disconnected or the test will not work. Hope this helps.
  6. Capt Ralph

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    Worked on a Tolly last year with two alternators to three battery banks diode isolator. Not a clue how it happened (lot of theories) but one of the alternator leads opened and two battery banks were tied together. Caused a world of confusion on the owners part (not a clue) but was a great bug for me (DVM in hand).
    When working with these sealed packages that nobody knows whats inside, anything is possible. Pull out that DVM (digital volt meter) and have a go at it.
    Diodes flow one way, not the other.
  7. rnburns81532

    rnburns81532 New Member

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    Thanks for the reply. 2 batts that were wired in parrallel would not trun the strbd eng. a different batt barely turned the port eng. , 4th batt barely turned the genset. Isolator is transistor. This condition happened 3 days straight and we fished 9 hrs each day. we used a "jumper" batt to get started in the AM. rnburns81532
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    rnburns81532 New Member

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    That is what I think too. I'm still trouble shooting.
    Thanks for your help.
    rnburns81532
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    rnburns81532 New Member

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    Thank you very much, I'll try this and see what happens. I think you have hit the nail on the head.
    rnburns81532