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can a 1982 36 aftcabin make a cruising liveaboard

Discussion in 'Carver Yacht' started by firedreamer, Jun 28, 2011.

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  1. firedreamer

    firedreamer New Member

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    Hello folks been a long time but , I have a question about the size to live aboard needed. With the continued drop in the housing market the wife and I have decided that we are not willing to work past out earilest retirement date which is 6 months from now. (we both will be 55yo) We had been looking at something along the lines of a 40 -43 foot to live aboard and cruise but we have to go down in size to more like 36' because of the realitive lower cost. i have found a nice looking one in the PNW but my question is this --------->
    We plan to spend about 10 yrs aboard , 5yrs on the west coast and than 5 yrs on the east. The plan is to just run from gunk hole to gunk hole for a day or a week or a month , what ever we feel like. No real hard time tables so it will be very easy to wait for the right weather or tides etc. I know most the time we will be in somewhat fairly protected waters but there will be a need to go down the west coast stopping when and where needed and up the east once out of the ICW. So can a 36" handle this limited exposure to the big old mean ocean even if we'er only 10 -15 miles of or less if possible and pay super attention to the weather forcasts? Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions and any general info on these fine boats
  2. Laurence

    Laurence Senior Member

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    36 will do

    You better check out the "Vancouver to San Francisco" thread on YachtForums.
  3. wscott52

    wscott52 Senior Member

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    Had a 36' Sea Ray Aft Cabin in the early 1980s. It was a nice boat but 4 people on it for a long weekend got cramped. I couldn't imagine living aboard it full time. There was barely storage space for a weekend's worth of stuff. I had it offshore some but was careful about it. I wouldn't have wanted to be in any big seas with it. If I were you I would either work longer or maybe look at older larger boats.
  4. Pascal

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    It will be fine on the east coast but i wouldn't run that down the left coast!

    If you re ok with a campaboard then a 36AC would do...

    Out in the PNW, check out Tollys, trawler or even the older larger Bayliners which are pretty decent
  5. NYCAP123

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    36' could work for a single guy roughing it, but with a 55 year old wife...just make sure you're worth more alive than dead. That's a small boat. One thing many don't consider is that your living expenses can easily triple because you're buying smaller quantities and shopping more often, plus, what's usually made for dinner is reservations. Another thing is: look at the head. Women like their own bathroom and room for paraphernalia. Also, make sure the shower is separate from the head and that you can actually turn around in it. That's a major source of tension. Can you and you wife live with 2 shirts, 2 pair of jeans, 2 pair of shorts and a bunch of T-shirts for 5 to 10 years? Most of the rest of your storage space will be taken up by sweatshirts, foul weather gear and jackets. Then there will be your limited water and holding tank situation, especially if you're gunk-holing. 1 shower is about 11 gallons of water. How big is that water tank? No consider the cost of repairs and maintenance.
    Cruising the east coast in a 36' is no problem, but, as Pascale pointed out, the left coast can be a whole 'nuther ballgame.
    Sorry to be a party pooper, but, at 55 years old, there is no way I'd consider it. At least not if I wanted to stay married and with both of us continuing to live.
    Growing up my desire was to live on a 45'er. After a few years in Ft. Lauderdale I wouldn't consider it on anything less than 70' (with the possible exception of an older Hat FBMY).
  6. firedreamer

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    Thanks for your thoughts so far guys, first I have to say to NYCAP 123 "but at 55 years old, there is no way I would consider it" Well man , I know every body here knows that 55yrs old is the new 39yo ... or was that 45yo... hum maybe it's the new 50yo.... darn memory anyway ! LOL just kidding ya NYCAP :) Ok i should add a couple things, first me and the wifey have been married going on 35 yrs now and both are very low maintenance thank god. So i do keep a little life ins. but not to much! It's funny Pascal mentioned "camp aboard " we have some friends that have been living on a 35" catalina for 3 yrs now , Thats camping aboard....lol

    The first project on what ever we wind up buying is to pull the dinette out and put in a bank of cabinets and counter top either L shape or opposing sides for food storage and whatever else. We dont eat at the table any longer and its only going to be her and I 98% of the time. high on the list is are to add a treatment system for at least one head, water maker, one on the small side so i can run it often like they need to be run. The master shower is fairly lager and has a tub I can stand and turn pretty well without the feeling of being closed in to bad and Im 6"1. The plan is to do 2 or 3 yrs up here in the sound / San juans / gulf islands then make a quick summer run up to lower alaska and back and than a 1 time trip down south maybe staying a yr or so in the delta and san fran areas , than on down to so calif. for a yr or 2 so it wont be a up and down the coast thing I'm just looking to maybe hear if it can be done if you stop in at a marina or anchorage every night after the days run. and if we need to wait out some sudden weather for how ever long , that would be no prob. I am pretty sure i can find a little room to put it in the enging room. I have a pretty good back ground for tinkering very good with mechanical things, 30+ yrs in the construction trades and the last 20 yrs as a medic/firefighter up here in Salem OR so i consider myself pretty handy around the house soon to be boat :) I just dont know what kinda waves /seas are out there on the calmest days. I am running throught the coast pilot righ tnow trying to plot out stops and all but still prefer real world advice .
  7. NYCAP123

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    About that waste treatment, this may help: http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/t...wage-treatment-system-onboard.html#post128863
    You sounded like you were describing me there. What I'll say is don't sell everything you own. I doubt you'll do 5 years on a 36'er, probably less than a year. By then you'll either want a bigger boat or you'll be back on shore. In either case you'll need a nest egg. Remember, you're talking about less than 200 sq. ft of living space, and don't forget about 4 sheets to a flush. :) The watermaker and waste treatment systems take space, and that bank of cabinets filled with groceries could easily upset the stability and handling of a 36'. So a lot of thought has to be given. But whether it last 10 years or a week, I say go for it. At the very least you'll have an adventure. It's amazing the turns life takes when you just take a step. Good luck.
  8. dennismc

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    Liveaboard

    If you want a divorce....buy a 36 ft boat and live aboard...
  9. tommyfmu

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    What would the expenses be like regarding fuel, oil and maintenance costs yearly, frequent docking fees, connectivity costs i.e. satellite TV, phone etc... Have you done an analysis? I'd be curious to see what the budget looks like.
  10. NYCAP123

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    Near impossible to calculate on a deal like this. Too many variables. How much cruising, how much time running the gen, staying at a backwater boatyard or gunkholing or a resort marina, how many hours run (oil changes, etc.) how many rocks hit. Lots of calculations to be made with wide attitude for the unexpected. Then there's the cost of the divorce lawyer.:D