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Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by terry dawe, Oct 16, 2006.

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  1. terry dawe, Oct 16, 2006
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    :rolleyes: hi everone i am new to the forum and also new to the yachting industry looking for some advice from the industry leaders if a 35-40 trawler yacht is a good style boat to enter the yacht building industry
  2. KCook, Oct 17, 2006
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    Errr, as a yacht builder, or as a yacht shopper?

    Kelly Cook
  3. nas130, Oct 18, 2006
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    I think Grand Banks and Nordhaven have that sector on lock down.

    There are many smaller reputable builders, but they do not seam to have the market share that the above do. I would think that if you are looking to manufacture a trawler style boat you already have stiff competition. I believe that GB goes back since the 60's!

    nas
  4. JWY, Oct 19, 2006
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    I agree that Grand Banks and Nordhavn build fine boats, but it's a little unfair to say that they have a lockdown. Having a good share of the market has not stopped other builders from being successful -- we haven't heard what Terry is offering that might give him a competitive edge, such as faster delivery time, lower pricing, aluminum or steel hulls, built in North America?

    I have sold many Grand Banks and Nordhavns from 40-62', so please don't think I do not continue to promote them as good vessels.

    Judy
  5. nas130, Oct 19, 2006
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    Judy is right about finding your niche.

    These are some other boats to look at for ideas:
    Albin, Defever, Nordic tugs,Mainship,Symbol, Sabreline, Krogen,Legacy, Fountaine Pajot.
  6. terry dawe, Oct 19, 2006
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    we fully understand that we will be up against stiff competion,however we feel the right design and good project planning we will have a good chance for success we have been working on our design with a yacht designer and should soon have the preliminary aspect of the project finished
  7. AMG, Oct 19, 2006
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    Doesn´t sound like a good business plan to me? Why don´t you make something different? Or maybe this is what you have....:)
  8. terry dawe, Oct 19, 2006
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    regarding amg posting maybe this is what wewant to do and regards to the buisness plan how can you criticize a buisness plan if you do not know what the buissness plan is?
  9. AMG, Oct 19, 2006
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    Of course I didn´t criticize something I have not seen. It was your expression that I compared to "selling sand in Sahara", which isn´t considered a good business plan...

    Best of luck with your project!

    /Lars
  10. KCook, Oct 19, 2006
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    I think that "yacht designer" mention in your post is critical. The trawler crowd is pretty darned finicky about the details in their yachts. As others here have already hinted, "business as usual" won't have much impact. But an outstanding design should get a lot of interest. Even for a new name in the market.

    Kelly
  11. GrahamF, Oct 20, 2006
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    trawler yacht

    Hi Terry

    Just out of interest will the boat be built out of composite/fibreglass or will it be out of steel with aluminium super structure. Are you aiming only at the US market or are you looking to go global. Good luck with you venture. When you can please post your design so that we can have a look at what you want to build.
  12. wdrzal, Oct 20, 2006
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    Quality compotes and accepting craftsmanship nothing less than perfect with attention to every detail, no matter how small is evident to someone with some knowledge and a good eye.A great product sells itself,but the complexity of a modern yacht requires a great deal of experience to produce a product that will stand proud next to the best yachts built.

    It is evident you or any manufacturer has to rely of a wide variety of sub-contractors for a whole variety of parts. I would think choosing sub-contractors that can deliver what they promises,and have a track record to back it up is important. With that said ,technology is evolving so fast if you want "state of the art" you will have to take some chances on new or proto type products.

    Does the Lemon law apply to yachts??????:confused:
  13. catmando, Oct 20, 2006
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    Could a catamaran design be 'trawlerized'?
  14. KCook, Oct 21, 2006
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  15. terry dawe, Oct 21, 2006
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    hello GrahamF the boat will be built out of fiberglass,we will be looking at easteren canada and the U.S.market frist when the design is finished i will post it .
  16. GrahamF, Oct 21, 2006
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    Hi Terry. Good luck with the project and looking forward in seeing what you are planning to build
  17. JWY, Oct 21, 2006
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    A.F. Theriault & Sons, a fine builder in Nova Scotia, built a 64' trawler catamaran. The owner cruised her for a few years and now has a 80' "sistership" under construction with the same builder.

    Terry, good luck with the project. There have been some mighty fine trawlers come out of both Canadian coats; I think we're all anxious to see what develops.

    Judy